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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Vladimir Panteleev <git@thecybershadow.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in arguments
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:00:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fu52ln2g.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8258182a-5d7e-d8c9-96c2-1a76dd9e143c@gmail.com> (Vladimir Panteleev's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:03:56 +0000")

Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow@gmail.com> writes:

> I wrote about this in the cover letter too. $"foo" and $ "foo" are
> both the same thing.

Just to make it clear: I read the cover letter. My confusion doesn't
come from the fact I may not have read it.

> In both cases, they are two distinct lisp tokens.
> The way $ is presented as a string/reference "prefix" is through
> convention only.
>
> Or are you objecting on stylistic grounds, that the test case from my
> patch doesn't follow the convention of omitting whitespace after the
> $ token, thus making it look like a prefix? This is, of course,
> subjective, but I would prefer to not perpetuate the illusion that
> $"foo" is some magical Emacs Lisp language syntax for a new kind of
> string literal, at least in the test suite.

I disagree. You are testing an implementation detail here: the fact that
"$" is not necessarily a prefix. According to the docstring, it should
be, so the test should use that, too. What if we rewrite `org-sbe' at
some point?

The same goes for the next string. $"foo", or in your case, $"a\"b\"c"
means nothing in `org-sbe' context. A reference should follow the dollar
character, per `org-sbe' docstring. I suggest to make an equivalent test
with, e.g., $"@1$1", where @1$1 refers to a field containing "a\"b\"c"
or some such.

I suggest to stick to the specifications, which, in this case, are the
docstring, not the code.

> The references are substituted with string literals before the
> $-prefix handling occurs. This is why it doesn't work with ranges.

I understand it doesn't work with ranges, but, per above, your tests are
confusing, IMO.

> I agree that it is all very confusing, and there is a lot of room for
> improvement. That doesn't stand in the way of this patch series,
> though.

I don't think anything stands in the way, but I'd rather get the tests
right, first.

> No difference. As can be seen from org-sbe's implementation, the
> normalization of symbols and string literals occurs before attempting
> to resolve references.

Something is rotten in the state of "ob-table.el", may think.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-07 22:58 [PATCH 0/3] org-sbe fixes Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-12 23:15   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 19:16     ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-14 13:49       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-14 14:03         ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-14 15:00           ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2018-03-14 16:23             ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-18 22:24               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-18 22:43                 ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-18 23:30                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-19  0:23                     ` [PATCH v2 0/3] org-sbe fixes Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in cell values Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of list arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ob-table: Mention passing ranges as lists in org-sbe's documentation Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19 23:07                       ` [PATCH v2 0/3] org-sbe fixes Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 18:24                         ` Alan Schmitt
2018-03-25 20:26                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 20:40                             ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-25 21:06                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 22:08                                 ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-26 20:16                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26 21:33                                     ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-26 21:42                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26 21:53                                         ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-27  6:21                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26  8:12                                 ` Alan Schmitt
2018-03-26 21:40                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-27  1:01                                     ` Bastien
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of list arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] ob-table: Mention passing ranges as lists in org-sbe's documentation Vladimir Panteleev

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