From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: I have terminated my assignment Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:22:56 +0530 Message-ID: <87ehesb1on.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ppydmigz.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNGdC-0004HO-2S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:53:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNGdA-0003rg-Vx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:53:10 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]:39739) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNGdA-0003rW-Pn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:53:08 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ro12so371647pbb.32 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:53:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:15:58 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten > When this code first entered the Org-mode repository, it was not in > contrib/. The code entered in EXPERIMENTAL/. Both files where marked > "Copyright (C) 2011-2012 FSF" and "Copyright (C) 2010-2012 FSF" from > the first moment they entered into the repository, in agreement with > Jambunathan's standing assignment with the FSF at the time. > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/EXPERIMENTAL/org-e-html.el?id=93ec2c7a5034944f5f6c77be6f37c49b4a697b72 > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/EXPERIMENTAL/org-e-odt.el?id=c2ea76e71034a161d875647b27cfbd72264b5d64 > > The files moved to contrib/ only in April of 2012, in a period when > the exporter structure was fleshed out and completed. This move was > clearly a staging event for a later move into core, rather than a > change of copyright assignment. While unassigned files are are only > allowed in contrib/, the reverse is not true and never was. What does FSF record indicate? Last I checked, it indicates that Emacs contains no such files and these files are unknown to the Emacs product. FSF email records also say that I have out of my own initiative refused to assign *my* rights to them. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't authorized Bastien to move contrib/lisp changes to lisp/. I invite him to show a proof to that effect. ---------------------------------------------------------------- What you indicate is daily routine. IMNSHO, they are good to know but not substantial to resolve the dispute. It is common knowledge that unreleased source is *known* to show wrong Copyright years prior to release. Corporations securely back up - as in put in a locker - only released tar balls. ---------------------------------------------------------------- What matters is the product (product here is Emacs) and a public release of product together with source tarball. Org-8.0 is not released yet. It is a work-in-progress and not known to public at large. Org-8.0 is not in Emacs, it is merely a staging ground for Emacs and Emacs maintainers will do their own due diligence *independent* of the due diligence done by Org maintainer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Thought experiment: I steal my employer's code, slap my authorship and assign copyright to FSF. Does that mean the code is assigned to FSF? No. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bottomline: Intent to act is not the same as act itself. Jambunathan K.