From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Org release 8.2.5g (minor release from maint) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 09:56:31 +0800 Message-ID: <87eh2ho1bk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87k3dtsat8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqhtywkx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87fvocbigv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87ios0vdnr.fsf@gmail.com> <8761ny2sj6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87ob1qf5br.fsf@gmail.com> <87siqxrfkr.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37299) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WL12H-00056f-0n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:54:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WL12B-0000Ra-B5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:54:16 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WL12B-0000RW-3m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:54:11 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WL129-0003uz-JX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 02:54:09 +0100 Received: from 114.248.29.141 ([114.248.29.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 02:54:09 +0100 Received: from eric by 114.248.29.141 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2014 02:54:09 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric Schulte writes: > Nick Dokos writes: > >> Achim Gratz writes: >> >>> Eric Schulte writes: >> >>>> I look forward to the day when Org-mode can simply require cl-lib and >>>> cease maintaining org- versions of common cl utilities. >>> >>> WIth cl-lib in ELPA I don't really see what's the holdup there if you >>> want to go that route. >> >> I have the impression that cl-lib is (was?) frowned upon by upstream for >> packages that are included in the emacs distribution. But it's only >> a vague recollection at this point: am I wrong? am I thinking of >> something else common-lispish? > > I thought that the point of cl-lib was so that packages like Org-mode > and gnus would stop re-implementing pieces of the cl package. I could > easily be wrong. I remembered seeing something on emacs-devel about this, and just found this statement from Stefan Monnier from a few days ago: Note that the main motivation behind the move to cl-lib is so that it's perfectly acceptable to use cl-lib functions (since they don't pollute the global namespace any more). So if you prefer to avoid cl-lib functions, that's fine, but if you want to use them, that's perfectly fine as well. Stefan Interpret as you will!