From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: Remove the build-in orgmode Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:12:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87egz1vrf0.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8738fn93h1.fsf@gmail.com> <8761ke5dvj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87tx7yrpqo.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51179) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wsycp-0006yF-DP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 14:12:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wsycj-0004bI-5K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 14:12:23 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wsyci-0004bD-UO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 14:12:17 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wsych-0006VL-EK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:12:15 +0200 Received: from pd9eb2213.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.34.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:12:15 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2213.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:12:15 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Nick Dokos writes: > I did that in the past (presumably for reasons similar to Thorsten's) > and I don't bother any longer (overriding is simple enough as you point > out), but the question still bugs me: what's so bad about it? The reason it is bad is that parts of the code have already leaked out from the org/ directory via custom-load and autoloads and that's going to break things in the least convenient moment – for instance when you try to hunt down bugs via "-Q". There simply is no way to remove the builtin Org from Emacs other than at build time and it's best not to pretend otherwise. Some day Emacs might actually treat its built-in packages as actual packages so that you can de-activate or replace them, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra