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Subject: Re: OT: gmane seems to be back
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To: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>
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Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

>>>>>> Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:
>
>     > Achim Gratz <Stromeko@Nexgo.DE> writes:
>     >> Am 30.10.2018 um 16:57 schrieb Nick Dokos:
>     >>> For a couple of weeks, I had not been able to connect to gmane,
>     >>> so I finally gave up and changed my preferences so that I could
>     >>> receive the email from the list.  I have not seen any
>     >>> acknowledgement anywhere that it was down BTW - did anybody here
>     >>> notice? Or was it just me?
>     >>=20
>     >> Plain NNTP wasn't down at all, but connections that use TLS
>     >> stopped working some time ago and probably still don't work.
>
>     > I have this in my .gnus.el:
>
>     > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"
>     > (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
>     > (nntp-port-number 563) ;; (nntp-port-number 119)
>     > (nnir-search-engine gmane) ))
>
> My gnus works fine (always has) with just the first line. The
> nntp-open-tls-stream and port-numbers appear not to be required. And I
> thought gmane.org was could no longer be searched with nnir.

If you do that then you connect to port 119 using cleartext and the
connection is (potentially) upgraded using STARTTLS. That=CA=BCs not the
same as making a TLS connection to port 563. Whether this matters for
reading news is entirely a personal decision.

The gmane search interface is sadly indeed defunct.

Robert