Re: Refresh of http://orgmode.org

[Bastien <bzg@altern.org>]

Hi Eric,

Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:

> +1 for preferring the old screenshot, for exactly those reasons
>    mentioned above.  While it is fun for me to look at random
>    screenshots from Worg, part of the purpose of this site is as a
>    gateway to Org-mode, and I fear many of these random screenshots are
>    meaningless (or even intimidating) unless you already have a good
>    understanding of Org-mode.

Again, I agree.  Patch welcome!

>> - I don't like the fixed top bar with the Org-Mode motto and the random
>>   quote.  It takes up about 20% of vertical screen space of my laptop. A
>>   complete waste in my view. The black background also does not cover
>>   the text behind it -- one or two pixel of the text are visible above
>>   the bar.
>
> I also find that (in part because of the new larger screenshots) I can't
> see any content upon first loading the page (see this screenshot [1]).

Mh.. your screen seems quite small.  If you can fix the .css to display
the website better on your screen, please do, I don't have time at hand
now to do it myself.

>> - The old homepage had all the easily accessible information on one
>>   page. So you could go to the homepage, search for "manual" or "mailing
>>   list" and go on from there. (I sometimes work like that.) The new
>>   homepage only contains screenshots (that don't convey a lot of
>>   meaningful information) and the org-mode mission statement. Useful
>>   information is available but the links are somewhat hidden in the
>>   description of what org is about and some are hard to find. (E.g. the
>>   manual is linked with the text "documented extensively".)
>
> I agree that the manual should be linked with the term "manual", as
> (unfortunately IMO) it seems many Emacs and Org-mode users aren't
> comfortable using the build in Emacs info system and prefer to use the
> online manual exclusively.

Well, the manual is two clicks away: 

1) "Documentation" 
2) "The online manual" 

I find it good to gather every available documentation in one single
page, that people will later be exposed to when looking for "orgmode
documentation".  That's also the benefit of having one page.

And one Google Search away:

http://www.google.fr/search?&ie=UTF-8&q=orgmode+manual
-> http://orgmode.org/org.html

> Aside from those items mentioned above I do generally like the style of
> the new site.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien