From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: mixed orgmode installation Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 18:41:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87d2ojs1t4.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8761ugs8as.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58517) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIi41-0005dJ-NK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:42:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIi3w-0002UC-8d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:42:17 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:39195) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIi3w-0002U4-1Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:42:12 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIi3v-0007hA-48 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 18:42:11 +0200 Received: from pd9eb38bb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.56.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 18:42:11 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb38bb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 18:42:11 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org John Hendy writes: > Could you elaborate on this? I'd always thought the exact opposite due > to being burned in the past by stale junk littered around /usr/lib, > /usr/bin, /usr/local/[bin/sbin]. Thus, for some things, I prefer to > run them from the git repository since I know where they'll be vs. > where `make install` might desire to put them. Git provides and manages the source tree and nothing else. To get a reliable Org you need a self-consistent and complete installation — that is usually provided by the build system. http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-build-system.html The most logical place for that Org installation is site-lisp (since then load-path is already set up correctly), but you can install almost anywhere as long as you know where load-path is pointing to at all times. You could then have multiple versions of Org installed and use them for different instances or versiosn of Emacs (one at a time, obviously). > What happens, for example, in this situation: > - git clone > - make && make install You just need to "make install" and it's been that way for over two years now… > - some file.el gets moved from org.git/contrib/lisp to org.git/lisp in master > - git pull > - make && make install And this is what "make up2" is doing, plus testing so the install won't be attempted if the tests don't pass. > Are there now two copies of file.el somewhere in the system? No, unless you've changed the install location inbetween. If a file would be removed (or renamed), then you'd need to first issue a "make clean-install" to make sure it is really gone from your installation. > Anyway, if there's more to read on some of your situations, I'd love > to know as I've been doing exactly that and want to stop if it's > recommended against! Thanks for mentioning the potential risk, as I > had no idea! I'm not exactly sure what problem you are talking about, maybe you could clarify. In any case it seems there's been a mixup of different problems in this thread. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf rackAttack: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds