From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id qDh0FAxQY2HPFAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:41:48 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id CFBNDwxQY2GkBwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:41:48 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A7E02F0D2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:41:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36210 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZfdh-0003lY-U9 for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:41:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZfdF-0003kH-Qf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:41:17 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:41787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZfdD-0003wa-K2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 16:41:17 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0E5724000A; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 20:41:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: [org-cite] add convention for direct commands, process for adding mappings to export processor(s)? References: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:41:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:28:10 -0400") Message-ID: <87czoctxy1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Are we at next already? >> I'd like, for example, to suggest adding "noauthor/bare" -> "cite*" to >> oc-biblatex. Done. >> I also think we should add a way for users to use a direct command for >> natbib and biblatex. [...] >> Perhaps some prefix for a style that signals to pass on directly for a >> specific export processor; like [cite/blx+footcite ...]. I'm not too keen on extending the citation syntax. >> In that case, the oc-biblatex processor would pass that command on as >> is, but other processors would ignore it, and use the default >> instead. This is the point of styles. We could allow custom ones. >> And if we were to add this, we'd still need to answer my first >> question: when and how to add specific style/variant mappings to the >> oc processors. It is possible to send a patch if it is something useful. Some processors (probably only biblatex at this point, we probably cover everything in natbib) may also introduce a customizable variable for user-defined styles. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou