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If you want M-j to act like C-j in > org mode, you would need to rebind M-j to org-return-and-maybe-indent in > an appropriate org mode startup hook. This is a good suggestion, thanks; maybe that will be the best solution for me, if the answer is that the current behavior is not a bug. It now seems to me that it must be a bug, though, since Org sometimes calls a built-in C function with an argument it cannot accept, and several people have confirmed this. The main question for me at this point is: does this happen because org-comment-line-break-function is being called when it shouldn't be, or because fill-prefix is nil when it shouldn't be, or something else? -- Best, Richard