Only Clock in Top-Level Task

Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Markus Heller]

Hello,

This is what my project.org looks like:

* STARTED My Project 			       :NEXT:	
   :LOGBOOK:...

** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
*** TODO Sub-Task 1
*** TODO Sub-Task 2

This is what I'd like to do:

I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub-Task 2, 
but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My 
Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not 
interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1, or any 
of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on working 
on My Project.

Is there anyway to do this?

Thanks and Cheers
Markus

Re: Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Bernt Hansen]

Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> This is what my project.org looks like:
>
> * STARTED My Project 			       :NEXT:	
>   :LOGBOOK:...
>
> ** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
> *** TODO Sub-Task 1
> *** TODO Sub-Task 2
>
> This is what I'd like to do:
>
> I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub-Task
> 2, but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My
> Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not
> interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1, or any
> of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on
> working on My Project.
>
> Is there anyway to do this?

C-c C-x C-d will total time for a task including times on a subtask.

-Bernt

Re: Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Markus Heller]

Bernt Hansen wrote:
> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is what my project.org looks like:
>>
>> * STARTED My Project 			       :NEXT:	
>>   :LOGBOOK:...
>>
>> ** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
>> *** TODO Sub-Task 1
>> *** TODO Sub-Task 2
>>
>> This is what I'd like to do:
>>
>> I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub-Task
>> 2, but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My
>> Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not
>> interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1, or any
>> of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on
>> working on My Project.
>>
>> Is there anyway to do this?
> 
> C-c C-x C-d will total time for a task including times on a subtask.
> 
> -Bernt

Hi Bernt,

I saw this option in the manual, but this is not quite what I want. 
What I'd like to be able to is clock in from any sub-task and be clocked 
into the *top-level* task, not the task I'm clocking in from.

Is that feasible?  Or am I too confusing?

Thanks
Markus

Re: Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Bernt Hansen]

Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:

Q> Bernt Hansen wrote:
>> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> This is what my project.org looks like:
>>>
>>> * STARTED My Project 			       :NEXT:	
>>>   :LOGBOOK:...
>>>
>>> ** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 1
>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 2
>>>
>>> This is what I'd like to do:
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub-Task
>>> 2, but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My
>>> Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not
>>> interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1, or any
>>> of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on
>>> working on My Project.
>>>
>>> Is there anyway to do this?
>>
>> C-c C-x C-d will total time for a task including times on a subtask.
>>
>> -Bernt
>
> Hi Bernt,
>
> I saw this option in the manual, but this is not quite what I
> want. What I'd like to be able to is clock in from any sub-task and be
> clocked into the *top-level* task, not the task I'm clocking in from.
>
> Is that feasible?  Or am I too confusing?

There is nothing I'm aware of that is built in which will accomplish
what you want.  You might be able to use the org-clock-in-hook and
custom lisp code to clock in the top-most parent task.

-Bernt

Re: Re: Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Q> Bernt Hansen wrote:
>>> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> This is what my project.org looks like:
>>>>
>>>> * STARTED My Project 			       :NEXT:	
>>>>  :LOGBOOK:...
>>>>
>>>> ** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
>>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 1
>>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 2
>>>>
>>>> This is what I'd like to do:
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub- 
>>>> Task
>>>> 2, but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My
>>>> Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not
>>>> interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1,  
>>>> or any
>>>> of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on
>>>> working on My Project.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyway to do this?
>>>
>>> C-c C-x C-d will total time for a task including times on a subtask.
>>>
>>> -Bernt
>>
>> Hi Bernt,
>>
>> I saw this option in the manual, but this is not quite what I
>> want. What I'd like to be able to is clock in from any sub-task and  
>> be
>> clocked into the *top-level* task, not the task I'm clocking in from.
>>
>> Is that feasible?  Or am I too confusing?
>
> There is nothing I'm aware of that is built in which will accomplish
> what you want.  You might be able to use the org-clock-in-hook and
> custom lisp code to clock in the top-most parent task.

Indeed, this is not implemented, and I have a hard time seeing why  
this would be desirable?  Summing i always hierarchical, so the time  
will be shown in the parent time anyway.

- Carsten

Re: Only Clock in Top-Level Task

[Markus Heller]

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
> 
>> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> Q> Bernt Hansen wrote:
>>>> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what my project.org looks like:
>>>>>
>>>>> * STARTED My Project                    :NEXT:   
>>>>>  :LOGBOOK:...
>>>>>
>>>>> ** TODO Task 1 [0/2]
>>>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 1
>>>>> *** TODO Sub-Task 2
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I'd like to do:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to be able to clock in from Task 1, Sub-Task 1, or Sub-Task
>>>>> 2, but make org-mode add the clock entries into the :LOGBOOK: of My
>>>>> Project, i.e. the top-level task/project.  In other words, I'm not
>>>>> interested in keeping track of how much time I spent on Task 1, or any
>>>>> of the sub-tasks, I'm only interested in the time I've spent on
>>>>> working on My Project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anyway to do this?
>>>>
>>>> C-c C-x C-d will total time for a task including times on a subtask.
>>>>
>>>> -Bernt
>>>
>>> Hi Bernt,
>>>
>>> I saw this option in the manual, but this is not quite what I
>>> want. What I'd like to be able to is clock in from any sub-task and be
>>> clocked into the *top-level* task, not the task I'm clocking in from.
>>>
>>> Is that feasible?  Or am I too confusing?
>>
>> There is nothing I'm aware of that is built in which will accomplish
>> what you want.  You might be able to use the org-clock-in-hook and
>> custom lisp code to clock in the top-most parent task.
> 
> Indeed, this is not implemented, and I have a hard time seeing why this 
> would be desirable?  Summing i always hierarchical, so the time will be 
> shown in the parent time anyway.

Thanks for the reply, Carsten (and Bernt of course).

The reason why I'm asking is I started out with clocking tasks using a 
really simple setup (I consider myself a bloody org newbie) where I only 
had level 1 tasks.  Now, I've added level 2 and level 3 tasks, and I 
wondered if my sudden clocking of level 2 tasks would screw up the clock 
summary.

Good to know that it won't, this'll help me in using org more effciently.

Thanks for org-mode, btw, it's a really great thing!

Markus