From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: org-mode tutorial questionaire Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: <87bpeesu45.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuA0h-0000Z4-LO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:43:31 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43817 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuA0f-0000Tq-LG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:43:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu9yn-0004xb-MF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:41:35 -0400 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:36205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu9yn-0004x9-Ir for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:41:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Alexander Poslavsky's message of "Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:02:33 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alexander Poslavsky Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Alex, Alexander Poslavsky writes: > There is a new tutorial on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/ > org4beginners.php. The idea is to write a tutorial for somebody who is > new to org-mode. ... > For everybody: > -What kind of tutorial would be the most useful? > -What in your experience people find confusing? Thanks for taking the time to put this on Worg. I wish I had had such a concise summary of the various flavors of emacs on different platforms when I started exploring org-mode. I was wondering if you could elaborate on the following. Are you suggesting that new users should never use M-x customize? ,---- | The biggest pain, when you just begin with Emacs, is the configuration. | There is not really a menu for it (you might later hear there is, but | they are lying, that menu is really there to trap innocent people), you | need to edit a text-file. `---- A few comments: 1. Some of the "step-by-step" instructions might be a bit easier to follow in list format (rather than paragraphs). 2. If I were reading the tutorial for the first time, I might conclude that I had to place "#-*- mode: org -*-" at the top of all my org files, even after configuring auto-mode-alist. 3. Why C-x b 2.org --> M-x org-mode --> C-x C-s as the recommended workflow? Once the configuration file is set up, C-x C-f 2.org will bring one right into org-mode. Thanks again for all the work you've put into this. Best, Matt