From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois?= Pinard) Subject: Re: LOGBOOK opening Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:49:24 -0500 Message-ID: <87boq5nq2j.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> References: <877h0yb4ys.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> <80ipki6ryo.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58587) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmOaW-00082U-7D for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:49:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmOaV-00026c-3j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:49:28 -0500 Received: from 206-248-137-202.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.137.202]:65436 helo=mercure.epsilon-ti.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmOaU-00026S-W9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:49:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: <80ipki6ryo.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:59:11 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Fran=C3=A7ois Pinard wrote: >> When using SPC in the Agenda buffer (org-agenda-show-and-scrollup), the >> LOGBOOK drawer is shown opened, which is not a big problem, yet a >> slightly annoying one, as I'm rarely interested to see its contents at >> this stage. > I don't _think_ this is customizable right now; though, please not[e] > that RET'ing on en entry from the agenda jumps to the entry, without > expanding the drawer. Though, it reuses the agenda buffer to do so -- > it's not the same behavior as SPC'ing. Hello, Sebastien. The manual says, in (org) Drawers: Sometimes you want to keep information associated with an entry, but you normally don't want to see it. For this, Org mode has _drawers_. [...] In order to look inside the drawer, you need to move the cursor to the drawer line and press there. and I like what the manual says, I would like it to be true. The /purpose/ of drawers is to keep the information out of sight, unless explicit action is taken, as stated. I do not see why RET and SPC from the Agenda would act differently from one another in that respect, nor why one of them would contradict the definition and spirit of a drawer. If for some reason it should be an exception, this should be documented and justified within (org) Agenda commands, which it is currently not. Fran=C3=A7ois