From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id UntnEL8WhWC3HwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:14:07 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id kJYeC78WhWBhTQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 07:14:07 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E32E1103ED for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:14:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55154 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laYxw-0000aD-GG for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:14:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laYx4-0000a7-7J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:13:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laYx3-0004sC-Qa; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:13:09 -0400 Received: from [78.194.183.21] (port=59810 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1laYx3-00019H-AP; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:13:09 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 133991A610A3; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:13:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Timothy Subject: Re: Contributor Steward role (was Re: Concerns about community contributor support) In-Reply-To: <87a6pmx656.fsf@gmail.com> (Timothy's message of "Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:52:37 +0800") References: <87pmyuyssi.fsf@gmail.com> <87v98b0yvm.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6pmx656.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:13:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87bla2kfb0.fsf@bzg.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619334846; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=orQZb1iSvgMOgkxrHQ49oFomwFo6ca3EQWbOiwIMa38=; b=PGrNM1GE7Jhjp+gzqlkNsdxVG+q4PTEnqcAaYzv2FqUIfWAtN6/v7ANXY6Vhn8141zqaYr WcWJrTPXeideYi++vx0wqMS/+5gXKUJ/TdILyExN+QT/3yN2B1d3lc4lvllPJagWEQB0aV +3ZXs5FGSHcI/eIaEBpKJE956wwSTcCx1JjFNqfe3Kq7JWoPdA+5QXx3HVDOFHauzjmA+V nPlmQgbmpCT5BLMhpt/8YRG8KNMhxpsZI7/G4yzqZquTG6XukXzgMdrmcrVmNNEHrtbQzK 5rSTwwTHkbjPE/ETFZUzzIDy0WblLm3A82QvlxtbSs4AgMmu60RJjVPoBmpy0w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619334846; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DR9ICj9ddSt7T20JBSD90p+4a3t4mzfjyjneqk3Bnz14fpMMIVmULv3EPZS2oAaKfjYIZG pe0TAxP27bUlBOr22V4TX+mNRL/0QXyvfXXuL+i91c1ncrYdUL5i0h3cHWSWcT5fkE3BJy Os9XXLX0eFzKWcg4IWsHY1n06SOZ8MQqCsyoniKwu0RxbufEKRWz8EAebn7lwY1HOxe6o+ XrTWLisb5oi4rmX/72A6izYwYivbQh5psXJpXNF3iOV0Lk1fHwqG/8eH4l901uumKoqt+t t/zJh4m/3dUgj9LL9AYm5mZwkJS4KBUlOt602VXesdMk8nQYiD+i5szF8Bed9w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.94 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E32E1103ED X-Spam-Score: -2.94 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: uiWeMp6nwFQg Hi Timothy, thanks for your answer and your willingness to help here, much appreciated. Timothy writes: > I also think that regardless it would be good to put out a call asking > if anyone else is interested/willing to do this: I'm going to be busy > sometimes, a reduced workload is clearly preferable, and less should > slip through the cracks :) Sure. We can certainly have two or more contributor stewards. > I'm happy to document this, but I don't know what expectations should be > set. I think this is a matter that should be decided by consensus among > the current/active maintainers. I started something here:=20 https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#what-can-I-expect Please adapt along your own commitment and expectations. >> (4) is perhaps the most daunting task: I even think we could have >> someone only dedicated to this very important task. Just count the >> number of times Nicolas says "I cannot reproduce this." Each time, >> there is a real bug that is *not* fixed... > > Mmmm, even if I say I'm willing to do this, I suspect this is something > I'd by nature push off enough that I'd frequently forget about this =F0= =9F=98=85. Sure -- also, this is time consuming and probably requires someone to focus just on this. I will raise a call for help for this. > This is how I see this two. As I indicated at the start, I'm happy to do > this, but I think a second person would help ensure that nobody slips > through the cracks. Great! Thanks a lot.