From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iykZDEGF/WCKBQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:37:37 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id oKcQB0GF/WA3AQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:37:37 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CF94AB76 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52156 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m7gC7-0004Tq-DV for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:37:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m7gBZ-0004Sw-Vr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:37:02 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:44147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m7gBX-0005yz-Lc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:37:01 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 867E6240103 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:36:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1627227417; bh=Km2lF1vZVh26yDjShoTgpbkavPd3ubIQhsWhz8crhzU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Af/yhjnXaClCi48wRufPjAxXRhQZlRrn5F7Y5XMBHbNaJQ+Sav1T2YjYqAOFMc89Q tcVBjpAHI0wvgbER/9cLtjC8JozLgUXLWbWCjKSJlwOS0+vSYsRdS76Vpqf6X74V/d Su9Gi8rDajsn5YkZzsVhmhGadNmJR8jvdq2YTxqUfeCYbMHS9Eilo24mV5YQto1mRq ZcGZIeP7be9TwWnYBHSFA21WuQ4MGFe0wotsRt2+lqYTVE7tkWx3tw+TwbZvxhj0Dx vb/p7zf3VKc1PV3OmmbJBZKcNSiadPvqisCW4arK63G26xn+nOppZBx6bXmvHXuygA KBwP/fShEUDhA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4GXnGw6VQHz6tmG; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:36:56 +0200 (CEST) References: <87h7gio3gn.fsf@posteo.de> From: Titus von der Malsburg To: Bruce D'Arcus Subject: Re: org-cite-list-bibliography-files In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:36:56 +0000 Message-ID: <87bl6qo15z.fsf@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=malsburg@posteo.de; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627227456; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JR4WrL8hqXElX8KDHjaaI3sJn/xl+6NV1WTNLNqRZXs=; b=jEw35/q+rNpQ+xrBvoAlfIaU1TFzNzhcu8yM++JiyXutFCm8RXyu90npdXtGGEFr5jbFls 40DDK8mwQp8yMzLgw43JqszKfB+lXoFDFGbn3ABZk+/7bZcmbjowsRVL5B/GVvBYAgzHKz +0etBVObJST/Do8C5waGHK3GEYOA3J92V3kMf/OxP5Fdez/4+KZ112csX2DyIMKFEZlWVm h5DzTuWbO6YW5naUdiJ0tz4qhDVKZklhYFQRKtUDsjAwCpNh2HahwQL+U1jYgBGu9LXyWr pQ9Zs438eLIyqBlQbSfC6YsZxTjFgLSTThb2AMTLPUx01mh5uljL4FO0XvFApw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627227456; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TIaiEgP9pkkv1n5bIEfQqUym0jj+flE/tqV8Khi/1wYMtJOUDrkXNibEhIaZNKRjbEiiKY SlWHDukexLNGO7h8R/ya/4b1sKyvnA7/04kjySOdyZzrCY0NufICKAuHHQqIcihtBF14YI FLoM0lfiP66AQPlSNo+C5GW4q8ZvNlM31I0DjJr6lR/48MJBRUQaeBlvd+4m5rWMeEcFoJ M/4bEbIYzkgnf0vDlLiWbRP1a9cABbqYSo4R4N8MmZg8DOCg/IRrQU02T6cLjS0N1DLKH9 +43ZCJljcQm4wBiGTnNRlzgEbZuuYg72APiQOgfisCDI1xa22TGUAGc1W7lYbQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.de header.s=2017 header.b="Af/yhjnX"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.de header.s=2017 header.b="Af/yhjnX"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8CF94AB76 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8TKthuhtQuzH On 2021-07-25 Sun 17:14, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 10:47 AM Titus von der Malsburg > wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I=E2=80=99m starting to learn about org=E2=80=99s new capabilities for c= itations and bibliographies. Exciting, and great work! >> >> Two suggestions/requests: >> >> 1. `org-cite-list-bibliography-files' returns the bibliographies defined= locally and the globally defined bibliographies together. I propose to on= ly list the local bibliographies, if defined, and to return the global bibl= iographies otherwise. I think the user needs a way to override the global = setting if necessary. For example, when I work on a manuscript, I=E2=80=99= d like to use that manuscript=E2=80=99s dedicated bibliography, but ignore = my global bibliography. It=E2=80=99s very common to work with dedicated bi= bliographies IME, and the UI of oc-basic doesn=E2=80=99t show from which bi= bliography an entry is coming. So there=E2=80=99s no way to reliably selec= t entries from just the dedicated/local bibliography. > > There was a thread here last week on this, and we realized that one > can already override this behavior. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-07/msg00499.html > > # Local Variables: > # org-cite-global-bibliography: nil > # End: Sure, that=E2=80=99s always possible. However, my suspicion is that users = in the majority of cases want /just/ the local bibliography when they speci= fy one. If true, a better default would be to only return the local biblio= graphy. Personally, I can=E2=80=99t think of a use case where you would li= ke to use a mix of multiple bibliographies, local and global, especially wh= ere there is no way to see from which bibliography each entry is coming. W= hat about duplicates, for instance, i.e. entries that exist in multiple bib= liographies? Titus