>>> "MN" == Max Nikulin writes: > On 25/10/2021 21:21, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> org-submit-bug-report sends an email to the org-mode mailing list. >> It >> turns out, that if you attach a file and later display that message on >> gmane, as I do in order to keep my email traffic in moderate numbers, >> then gmane might block that attachment. Thanks for your detailed answer > I do not see your attachment on news.gmane.io as well, but it is a > rare problem. Mostly attachments are received correctly. Moreover, a > part of your message is truncated. I am unsure whether there is some > limit for message size or parser was confused by excessive white > spaces (unsure whether the message was fully conformant). Anyway, size > of "current state" part tells that it is unlikely *minimal* example > that you tested with "emacs -Q". Even the part received by gmane has > size of almost 300k. Right, it was not produced my emacs -Q my bad. Sorry. >> Now GNU emacs has a bug tracker what can be accessed via debbugs-org and >> there this problem does not appear. >> The org mailing list does have a similar bug tracker which is a bit >> of >> problem with such a workflow. > Attachment is available on > https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87a6j02qf0.fsf@mat.ucm.es/ > so I do not see any problem. Likely nobody explicitly confirmed your > bug, so it did not appear on https://updates.orgmode.org/ On the other > hand, a patch appeared quickly enough, so reasons to complain are > unclear for me. That is not entirely true, Kevin, said he could not see my attachment and quickly produced a minimal example himself, that confirmed my bug. https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87pmrupu0s.fsf@gmail.com/ (His message was the reason to bring up that subject) >> Of course an alternative would be to CC the bug report to the GNU emacs >> list since org mode is also in the GNU emacs tree, but I am not sure >> whether this is a good idea. > I am unsure to which list you are going to send a copy. Emacs-orgmode > is hosted on gnu.org just as other emacs lists. To bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org That one I can access via debbugs-org That function seems a good compromise: it does not require to be subscribed to the list, and it does not suffer from gmane's problem. When I call debbugs-org I do not see my bug, are you saying I should? > > Besides lists.gnu.org > it is archived on public inbox instances and these archives were able > to parse your message. For issues filed through debbugs.gnu.org > latency is often higher that for ones sent directly to this list. > Are there evidences that it was not a rare case when an attachments > from a messages generated by org-submit-bug-report was lost by gmane > and change of workflow is really required? Well one thing I learned is to stick to emacs -Q strictly, but I would like to know whether debbugs-org could access this bug?