From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id ScHwDYkYyWMfUQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:16:41 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id FdDlDIkYyWOZ0QAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:16:41 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E949B2D841 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:16:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIRjA-00019u-0N; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:01:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIRir-00010N-NG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:00:57 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIRio-0004QK-Er for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:00:39 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7CF24010F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:00:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1674122433; bh=NP1cm6IUlN3gR1Kqd+da0NfobFuG0MKkb/K67vqyl6c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=fReBPdmsdqNKKTCaacstIZdkBZwhwBthOicDdt4mhwm5W+RZfH4sbxfvzxrAHjqxa kbNAxTtXGP6i47Ck/bCdGzgS0OXuJGKjHyOq6Yxv+wWRWnZPjyzYp/9w/Stn5cq4Oh uG/uQNpS4ECzbYra+Yzaafbgbs6ou7rfJB6wDHnhyO05FF/N4UD/Qz3OvL5sv+8rJ/ zDTAra3UmT0pc5leWvHzNnhxWE8hJvPMHWgElRJ6yg0wZALjnMb+B3ZHuNyoHdGNpj muj6SGt6STbkQ9STI24n0L9nmZx1GmKd1WdzQq9UlHzJGAbarWvcAwdHHnHTC6F8qU nwMjHDclnaMBQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NyJ672GDKz6tn4; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:00:30 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: emacs18@gmail.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: One of my Org files hangs Emacs In-Reply-To: <87sfg75fjy.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87edrrpuhv.fsf@mbork.pl> <87o7qv663x.fsf@localhost> <87sfg75fjy.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:01:00 +0000 Message-ID: <87bkmu6dyb.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I doubt that it is the culprit here. > Prior to me adding above line, I would get mysterious hangs, and all > kinds of frequent errors. I tried debug-on-quit and debug-on-error, but > this "org persist" thing was impossible to debug. Note the most users do not experience such problems. Could you file a separate bug report describing your situation in more details? We can then try to work something out. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at