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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.69 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BE1A761929 X-Spam-Score: -9.69 X-TUID: tlT5EdLVbXiO On Wednesday, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:32, yaxp wrote: > However, I would prefer to have a better solution than this because this > "breaks" the flow of the file.=20 It does break the flow but only because *you* are imposing the break. I don't know of any other (more elegant) way to achieve what you want. Maybe others do. > I'd like to publish the .org file too, and I hope to make it just as > convenient to read as the produced PDF. =20 It's difficult to have the marked text (which has both semantic and specific typographical directives) be as "clean" as the resulting PDF. org is good at minimising noise in the file but you cannot remove it completely. Sometimes macros can help but probably not in this case without being fragile. > Also, is there any reasoning behind why the current behavior is the way > it is?=20 Yes, very simply: there is no way to indicate the end of a "block". The start is defined by the heading but only ends when another heading at the same or higher level is started. This is related to a longstanding desire by many to have the ability to explicitly end a subheading. The grammar does not allow for this and there have been many discussions on the mailing list over the years about this. The situtation is unlikely to change. eric --=20 : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.6.7-661-g34ee6f in Emacs 30.0.50=