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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `:export' attribute?: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:59:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk7k7tuf.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <usmmbc$qbv$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:27:53 +0700")

Max Nikulin writes:

> On 10/03/2024 09:08, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
>> I'm thinking about adding a new global attribute, `:export', that
>> would granularly control whether or not to export the object and how to
>> export it.
>
> I have a bit different expectations in respect to export predicates.
> It should be possible to express that some content should be exported
> by all backend except the given list. The use case is fallback for
> backends not covered by export snippets:
>
>     @@latex:\textbf{\LaTeX() formatting}@@@@html:<strong>HTML
>     formatting</strong>@@@[...]{*for other backends}

I think that in your example (if I understand the intentions correctly)
it would not even be necessary to use export snippets:

#+options: inline-special-block-aliases:(("strong" :latex-command textbf
:html-tag strong :export "latex+ html+ odt*" ))

@strong{formatting}

or even:

@strong{@@latex:\latex{}: @@@@html:HTML: @@ formatting}

As defined, it is exported to LaTeX and HTML with all the formatting,
but only the content is exported to odt. The rest are not exported.
Maybe an "rest" option could be added, to avoid verbosity:

:export "latex+ html+ rest*"

(the complete format is exported to LaTeX and html and only the content to the rest).

However, I think that exporting this object to 'format-agnostic' backends,
such as plain text, would have to be implemented in a way that always
exports the content.

> Earlier I raised this issue during discussion of @@:...@@ syntax extension:
> Max Nikulin. Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup. Fri, 28 Jan 2022
> 21:52:17 +0700.
> https://list.orgmode.org/868df76e-69e0-1d14-ae8a-13b746982fcf@gmail.com
>
> Another case for backend predicates is whether it should be applicable
> to derived backends or just to explicitly specified ones.

I don't have a definite opinion. Maybe it would be nice to also take
into account derived backends...

-- 
Juan Manuel Macías -- Composición tipográfica, tratamiento de datos, diseño editorial y ortotipografía



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-11 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-01 20:34 Experimental public branch for inline special blocks Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-02  8:29 ` Stefan Nobis
2024-03-02 10:57   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-03 20:29 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-10  2:08   ` `:export' attribute?: " Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-10 13:54     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-11 10:27     ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-11 13:59       ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2024-03-11 17:01         ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-11 20:19           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-12  8:32             ` Stefan Nobis
2024-03-12 13:45               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-12 16:20                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-12 17:41                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-13 16:08                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-13 16:48                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-13 17:16                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-15  2:19                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-15 10:52                             ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-15 13:10                               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-15 17:21                                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-15 14:00                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-15 11:11                                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-15 14:19                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-15 16:26                               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-16 14:07                                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-18 19:42                                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-19 14:54                                     ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-19 17:47                                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-21 10:26                                       ` inline-special-block: export rules (was: `:export' attribute?: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks) Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-26 16:56                                         ` inline-special-block: export rules Max Nikulin
2024-03-04 17:13 ` naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks Max Nikulin
2024-03-04 17:29   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-04 17:49     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-05 10:53       ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-05 11:04         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-05 15:16           ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-05 15:23             ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-05 15:16         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-06 10:42     ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-06 10:56       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-07 10:34         ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-07 14:12           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-08  5:26             ` Samuel Wales
2024-03-08 16:32               ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-08 16:41                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-04 18:07   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-04 22:17     ` Samuel Wales
2024-03-04 22:18       ` Samuel Wales
2024-03-05 16:47 ` smallcaps: " Max Nikulin
2024-03-05 17:28   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-06 10:55     ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-06 15:21       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-06 16:53 ` To avoid zero width space: " Max Nikulin
2024-03-06 18:27   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-06 21:13   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-07 10:57 ` false positives: " Max Nikulin
2024-03-07 11:06   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-07 11:18     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-07 11:19       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-07 15:53       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-07 16:09         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-07 16:57           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-07 18:21             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-08 13:58               ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-08 15:44                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-08 16:04                   ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-08 16:15                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-08 18:44                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-08 18:57                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-09 11:10                         ` Max Nikulin
2024-03-09 11:48                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-09 15:24                             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-03-10  7:11                               ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-09  8:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-09 10:51   ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-09 14:05     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-10 23:00       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-04-11 12:26         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-11 13:47           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-07-18  6:55             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-18 21:04               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2024-07-19 13:06                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-14 15:59   ` Attributes on images (was:: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks) Rick Lupton
2024-04-14 19:26     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-11 11:06 ` Experimental public branch for inline special blocks Max Nikulin

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