export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Hi all,

How can I export to LaTeX with the combined effect of toc:t and num:nil?

Setting num:nil results in an empty TOC.

I guess, I am looking for a way to automatically add
#+begin_latex
  \addcontentsline{toc}{<the level>}{<the heading>}
#+end_latex
to the exported document.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Eric S Fraga]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> How can I export to LaTeX with the combined effect of toc:t and num:nil?
>
> Setting num:nil results in an empty TOC.
>
> I guess, I am looking for a way to automatically add
> #+begin_latex
>   \addcontentsline{toc}{<the level>}{<the heading>}
> #+end_latex
> to the exported document.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas

Andreas,

the problem is that setting num:nil tells org to use the second form of
sectioning, as specified in org-latex-classes.  The unnumbered section
headings do not generate TOC information so no TOC is available.  It's a
latex issue, not org.

There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
entries to a TOC basically).


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Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Hi Eric,

thanks for your answer.

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> How can I export to LaTeX with the combined effect of toc:t and num:nil?
>>
>> Setting num:nil results in an empty TOC.
>>
>> I guess, I am looking for a way to automatically add
>> #+begin_latex
>>   \addcontentsline{toc}{<the level>}{<the heading>}
>> #+end_latex
>> to the exported document.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>
> Andreas,
>
> the problem is that setting num:nil tells org to use the second form of
> sectioning, as specified in org-latex-classes.  The unnumbered section
> headings do not generate TOC information so no TOC is available.  It's a
> latex issue, not org.
>
> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
> entries to a TOC basically).

I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
exactly that.

I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
(TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
and have it insert the latex statement on its own.

Best,
Andreas

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Eric S Fraga]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

[...]

>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>> entries to a TOC basically).
>
> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
> exactly that.
>
> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>
> Best,
> Andreas

Ah, I see.  Well, you could do something along these lines (completely
untested and likely to be wrong...):

#+latex_header: \newcommand{\mysection}[1]{\section*{#1}\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{#1}}

and similar for subsection, subsubsection, ...

Then customise org-latex-classes and replace, for instance,
\\section*{%s} by \\mysection{%s}.

However, you'll probably need to put a bit more TeX in the
addcontentsline bit if you want some proper formatting (have a look at
latex.ltx [around line 5659 in my version of this file] to see how
content lines are handled by default...).

Not trivial but also not impossible!

I would suggest you look at latex-specific fora for answers to the more
general question of generating tables of contents for unnumbered
headings as I can imagine that there are simpler solutions.

HTH,
eric

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Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Hi Eric,

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>>> entries to a TOC basically).
>>
>> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
>> exactly that.
>>
>> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
>> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
>> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
>> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>>
>> Best,
>> Andreas
>
> Ah, I see.  Well, you could do something along these lines (completely
> untested and likely to be wrong...):
>
> #+latex_header: \newcommand{\mysection}[1]{\section*{#1}\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{#1}}
>
> and similar for subsection, subsubsection, ...
>
> Then customise org-latex-classes and replace, for instance,
> \\section*{%s} by \\mysection{%s}.
>
> However, you'll probably need to put a bit more TeX in the
> addcontentsline bit if you want some proper formatting (have a look at
> latex.ltx [around line 5659 in my version of this file] to see how
> content lines are handled by default...).
>
> Not trivial but also not impossible!
>
> I would suggest you look at latex-specific fora for answers to the more
> general question of generating tables of contents for unnumbered
> headings as I can imagine that there are simpler solutions.
>

Thanks for these hints!  When I follow that route I'll have to do
more work I guess:
1. either I have to provide two versions of my org-latex-classes (one
   for numbered and one for un-numbered cases)
2. or I have to provide a filter or sth similar to replace sections
   with mysections, correct?

That's why I would prefer to follow Nick's suggestion.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>>>> entries to a TOC basically).
>>>
>>> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
>>> exactly that.
>>>
>>> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
>>> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
>>> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
>>> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Andreas
>>
>> Ah, I see.  Well, you could do something along these lines (completely
>> untested and likely to be wrong...):
>>
>> #+latex_header: \newcommand{\mysection}[1]{\section*{#1}\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{#1}}
>>
>> and similar for subsection, subsubsection, ...
>>
>> Then customise org-latex-classes and replace, for instance,
>> \\section*{%s} by \\mysection{%s}.
>>
>> However, you'll probably need to put a bit more TeX in the
>> addcontentsline bit if you want some proper formatting (have a look at
>> latex.ltx [around line 5659 in my version of this file] to see how
>> content lines are handled by default...).
>>
>> Not trivial but also not impossible!
>>
>> I would suggest you look at latex-specific fora for answers to the more
>> general question of generating tables of contents for unnumbered
>> headings as I can imagine that there are simpler solutions.
>>
>
> Thanks for these hints!  When I follow that route I'll have to do
> more work I guess:
> 1. either I have to provide two versions of my org-latex-classes (one
>    for numbered and one for un-numbered cases)
> 2. or I have to provide a filter or sth similar to replace sections
>    with mysections, correct?

I've gone the filter route before, with pretty good success: checking
for the type of heading and adding toc statements. In my case I *wanted*
something more complicated, though, using tocloft and \addtocontents. If
you don't need all that then Nick's suggestion seems perfect.

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>>>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>>>>> entries to a TOC basically).
>>>>
>>>> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
>>>> exactly that.
>>>>
>>>> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
>>>> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
>>>> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
>>>> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Ah, I see.  Well, you could do something along these lines (completely
>>> untested and likely to be wrong...):
>>>
>>> #+latex_header: \newcommand{\mysection}[1]{\section*{#1}\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{#1}}
>>>
>>> and similar for subsection, subsubsection, ...
>>>
>>> Then customise org-latex-classes and replace, for instance,
>>> \\section*{%s} by \\mysection{%s}.
>>>
>>> However, you'll probably need to put a bit more TeX in the
>>> addcontentsline bit if you want some proper formatting (have a look at
>>> latex.ltx [around line 5659 in my version of this file] to see how
>>> content lines are handled by default...).
>>>
>>> Not trivial but also not impossible!
>>>
>>> I would suggest you look at latex-specific fora for answers to the more
>>> general question of generating tables of contents for unnumbered
>>> headings as I can imagine that there are simpler solutions.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for these hints!  When I follow that route I'll have to do
>> more work I guess:
>> 1. either I have to provide two versions of my org-latex-classes (one
>>    for numbered and one for un-numbered cases)
>> 2. or I have to provide a filter or sth similar to replace sections
>>    with mysections, correct?
>
> I've gone the filter route before, with pretty good success: checking
> for the type of heading and adding toc statements. In my case I *wanted*
> something more complicated, though, using tocloft and \addtocontents. If
> you don't need all that then Nick's suggestion seems perfect.


The more I think about it, the more I get the impression, that it would
have been faster (even given my elisp 'skills') to write such a
filter than to raise that here.  And I might even need a similar and
more complicated TOC handling soon, so it would have been a good start.

Anyway, Nick's suggestion works for now.  As I said in the other post,
it works at least as long as I do not want odt as well...

Best,
Andreas

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Eric S Fraga]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:


[...]

> That's why I would prefer to follow Nick's suggestion.

Yes, Nick's suggestion is straightforward and should work very well for
what you want.
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Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Nick Dokos]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

> Hi Eric,
>
> thanks for your answer.
>
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> How can I export to LaTeX with the combined effect of toc:t and num:nil?
>>>
>>> Setting num:nil results in an empty TOC.
>>>
>>> I guess, I am looking for a way to automatically add
>>> #+begin_latex
>>>   \addcontentsline{toc}{<the level>}{<the heading>}
>>> #+end_latex
>>> to the exported document.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andreas
>>
>> Andreas,
>>
>> the problem is that setting num:nil tells org to use the second form of
>> sectioning, as specified in org-latex-classes.  The unnumbered section
>> headings do not generate TOC information so no TOC is available.  It's a
>> latex issue, not org.
>>
>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>> entries to a TOC basically).
>
> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
> exactly that.
>
> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>

Instead of adding toc entries, you can use latex to delete section
numbers:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}

* foo
This is foo.

** subfoo1
This is foo.1
** subfoo2
This is foo.2

* bar
This is bar.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The problem might be that the sections are not numbered in the TOC
either. But if you don't care about that, this is certainly simpler
than adding toc entries by hand.

-- 
Nick

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Hi Nick,

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> thanks for your answer.
>>
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> How can I export to LaTeX with the combined effect of toc:t and num:nil?
>>>>
>>>> Setting num:nil results in an empty TOC.
>>>>
>>>> I guess, I am looking for a way to automatically add
>>>> #+begin_latex
>>>>   \addcontentsline{toc}{<the level>}{<the heading>}
>>>> #+end_latex
>>>> to the exported document.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> the problem is that setting num:nil tells org to use the second form of
>>> sectioning, as specified in org-latex-classes.  The unnumbered section
>>> headings do not generate TOC information so no TOC is available.  It's a
>>> latex issue, not org.
>>>
>>> There are workarounds but they involve using latex directly (to add
>>> entries to a TOC basically).
>>
>> I am aware of that.  Sorry for being unclear.  I would like to automate
>> exactly that.
>>
>> I use several LaTeX export classes and I would like that possibility
>> (TOC with unnumbered sections/subsections/...) in each of these classes.
>> Thus, I am searching for a (more) general approach, that I could 'switch on'
>> and have it insert the latex statement on its own.
>>
>
> Instead of adding toc entries, you can use latex to delete section
> numbers:
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
>
> * foo
> This is foo.
>
> ** subfoo1
> This is foo.1
> ** subfoo2
> This is foo.2
>
> * bar
> This is bar.
>
> The problem might be that the sections are not numbered in the TOC
> either. But if you don't care about that, this is certainly simpler
> than adding toc entries by hand.

Thanks for that!  That is really cool and having the entries in the TOC
un-numbered is exactly what I want!

As a follow-up, it would be nice if I could mix
that now again with num:1.  That way I could add a TOC with depth 1
(only sections) and have them un-numbered.

But num:1 add its own '\setcounter{secnumdepth}{1}' (why?) which by default
comes later than than the #+LATEX_HEADER definition:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+OPTIONS: num:1
#+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}

* foo
This is foo.

** subfoo1
This is foo.1
** subfoo2
This is foo.2

* bar
This is bar.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Regards,
Andreas

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Nick Dokos]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

>> Instead of adding toc entries, you can use latex to delete section
>> numbers:
>>
>> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
>> ...
>>
>> The problem might be that the sections are not numbered in the TOC
>> either. But if you don't care about that, this is certainly simpler
>> than adding toc entries by hand.
>
> Thanks for that!  That is really cool and having the entries in the TOC
> un-numbered is exactly what I want!
>
> As a follow-up, it would be nice if I could mix
> that now again with num:1.  That way I could add a TOC with depth 1
> (only sections) and have them un-numbered.
>

There is a tocdepth counter that you can set similarly. Will that
do what you want?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{tocdepth}{1}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


> But num:1 add its own '\setcounter{secnumdepth}{1}' (why?) which by default
> comes later than than the #+LATEX_HEADER definition:
>
> #+OPTIONS: num:1
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
>


-- 
Nick

Re: export to LaTeX with TOC but without numbers

[Andreas Leha]

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>>> Instead of adding toc entries, you can use latex to delete section
>>> numbers:
>>>
>>> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
>>> ...
>>>
>>> The problem might be that the sections are not numbered in the TOC
>>> either. But if you don't care about that, this is certainly simpler
>>> than adding toc entries by hand.
>>
>> Thanks for that!  That is really cool and having the entries in the TOC
>> un-numbered is exactly what I want!
>>
>> As a follow-up, it would be nice if I could mix
>> that now again with num:1.  That way I could add a TOC with depth 1
>> (only sections) and have them un-numbered.
>>
>
> There is a tocdepth counter that you can set similarly. Will that
> do what you want?
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{tocdepth}{1}
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \setcounter{secnumdepth}{0}
>
>

That does what I want.  Thanks a lot!

Best,
Andreas

PS: I will come back when I need a cross-backend-solution, that work for
odt as well....