From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id aCrCCvWY616jHAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:40:21 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id pjOaBvWY617ocgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:40:21 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE61B940B6B for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jlxaN-0006Nv-NZ for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:40:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jlxZT-0006AA-6b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:39:24 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40646 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jlxZR-0003gd-09 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:39:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4A8CFA0A0; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:39:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Kyle Meyer Subject: Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/ References: <87mu5hqzur.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h7vmw7zp.fsf@kyleam.com> <87pnaamarm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <20200608045506.GB20150@dcvr> <87bllol125.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1uikw7z.fsf@kyleam.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 09:39:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r1uikw7z.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Sun, 14 Jun 2020 06:17:04 +0000") Message-ID: <87a71072hc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/18 12:39:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eric Wong Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=ericabrahamsen.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.91 X-TUID: U2wiqhTrUsKZ Kyle Meyer writes: > [ adding Eric Wong back to the cc ] > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Eric Wong writes: >>> Fwiw, I've been trying to avoid exposing NNTP article numbers in >>> the HTTP endpoint in favor of Message-IDs because serial numbers >>> aren't decentralization-friendly. Of course, sometimes >>> Message-IDs get reused, so public-inbox will return all messages >>> which match a particular Message-ID in those rare cases. >>> >>> Btw, POST with the "&x=m" query parameter already allows search >>> to return a gzipped mboxrd. >>> >>> And also what I just wrote about about JMAP/GraphQL in the other >>> message. >>> >>> A read-only IMAP server is also coming with search support, >>> and IMAP UIDs will be equivalent to NNTP article numbers. >> >> Sounds like something in there is bound to work! IMAP might be best -- >> while it's certainly possible to do Message-ID<->article number lookups, >> that will slow Gnus down further, and it's already fairly slow. >> >> Thanks again, >> Eric > > Here are the recent patches that Eric sent out related to the read-only > IMAP server: > > https://public-inbox.org/meta/20200610070519.18252-1-e@yhbt.net > > It's already available at . I've played > around with that a bit in Mutt and Gnus, and it seems to work nicely. > As I mentioned before, I don't really search much in Gnus, but I tried > some basic queries via GG and the results looked reasonable. > > I set this up for news.yhetil.org tonight. Here's what I used to test > it out: > > ;; Set so that all groups/folders aren't subscribed and synced. Think > ;; I should be able to prevent that with `gnus-options-not-subscribe' > ;; or `gnus-auto-subscribed-groups', but didn't have any luck. > (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "news.yhetil.org" > ;; no certs yet > (nnimap-stream plain))) Hmm, I tried this (adding to `gnus-secondary-select-methods'), and got: Warning: Opening nnimap server on news.yhetil.org...failed: NO Mailbox doesn't exist: DOES.NOT.EXIST (0.001 + 0.000 secs).; Unable to open server nnimap+news.yhetil.org due to: make client process failed: Network is unreachable, :name, *nnimap*, :buffer, *nnimap news.yhetil.org nil *nntpd**, :host, news.yhetil.org, :service, imap, :coding, nil The "mailbox doesn't exist" thing seems to be misleading: further attempts to connect to the server just gave me "network is unreachable". I wonder if this has something to do with my tls settings? I'll set `gnutls-log-level' to 2 and try again... Nope, same error. This is on Emacs master, I'm not sure what else I can check (though I still suspect it's something to do with connection security). Eric