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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:36:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6q0mtui.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2dkrdzl.fsf@posteo.net> ("Juan Manuel =?utf-8?Q?Mac=C3=AD?= =?utf-8?Q?as=22's?= message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:07:58 +0200")

Hello again,

Since I have an old Emacs version (24.5.1) on my Raspberry, I've done
a few more tests. The situation is the following:

1. On Arch Linux and Emacs 27.2:

- The system locales are set to "es_ES.UTF-8". When, inside Emacs, I do M-x
getenv RET LANG RET, I get "es_ES.UTF-8".

org-sort-list a -> wrong result;

- Launching Emacs from terminal with

LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 \
etc...

org-sort-list a -> wrong result again.

2. On Fedora 32 (virtual machine) and Emacs 27.1

- Everything as in the previous case.

3. On Raspian stretch and Emacs 24.5.1:

- The system locales are set to "es_ES.UTF-8" as well. When, inside a
normal Emacs session, I do M-x getenv RET lang RET, I get "es_ES.UTF-8".

org-sort-list a -> wrong result;

- Launching Emacs from terminal with

LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 \
etc...

In this case the list is ordered correctly, but I observe that similar
forms with or without emphasis are not always ordered in the same way.
Sometimes the non-emphasized forms are ordered before and sometimes
they are ordered after (?).

I don't know if I'm missing something...

Best regards,

Juan Manuel

Juan Manuel Macías writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> Thanks again. In my case, I keep getting the wrong result. In addition
> to the test I did in a virtual machine with Fedora, I use Arch Linux in
> my every day computers, with locales correctly (I hope) configured as
> es_ES.UTF-8 (there was a typo in my previous mail, sorry:
> 'en_ES.UTF-8'). In my /etc/locale.conf file I have:
>
> LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_ADDRESS=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_PAPER=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8
>
> And with locale -a, I get a list of enabled locales:
>
> C
> en_US.utf8
> es_ES.utf8
> POSIX
>
> However, I keep getting the wrong result :-( (Arch, Emacs 27.2).
>
> Even with
>
> LANG=en_EN.UTF-8 \
> emacs -nw -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ -L ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/ \
> list.org
>
> Maybe the problem is on Arch's side (?), although it was also reproducible
> in the test I did with Fedora in virtual machine and Emacs 27.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Juan Manuel
>
> Maxim Nikulin writes:
>
>> On 14/04/2021 02:08, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
>>> The situation is that with locales configured for Spanish from Spain
>>> (en_ES.UTF-8) the list is not ordered correctly, unless those three
>>> spaces from org-sort-remove-invisible are removed. But I couldn't say
>>> why or if that would be appropriate as a patch...
>>
>> Did not you get a warning like the following one?
>>
>> (process:220): Gtk-WARNING **: 15:17:45.066: Locale not supported by C
>> library.
>>       Using the fallback 'C' locale.
>>
>>> Regarding the collation rule of forms with emphasis, at least in Spanish
>>> these should come after the non-emphasized forms. I don't know if this
>>> is a general rule also for other languages (at least it seems more
>>> natural that the forms without emphasis are placed before).
>>
>> LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 \
>>   emacs -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ -L ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/ \
>>   list.org
>>
>> - a
>> - /a/
>> - v
>> - /v/
>>
>> So it works accordingly to your expectation. Emacs 25.2.2,
>> Ubuntu-18.04 container.
>>
>> I have generated es_ES.UTF-8 locale using
>>
>>     dpkg-reconfigure locales
>>
>> Depending on linux distribution you run, the locale may be ready to
>> use or not. I tend to think that in minimal environment of virtual
>> machine it was missed.
>>
>> I had an idea to add a test for sorting of items including emphasized
>> ones but test-org-list/sort forces C locale. Maybe it was done to
>> avoid failures due to missed locale.
>>
>>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-02 18:15 Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-09 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-10  0:01   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-10 10:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-10 11:41       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-13 17:31         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-13 19:08           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-14 15:42             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-14 15:51               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-14 17:07               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-14 21:36                 ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2021-04-15 14:58                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-15 18:21                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-16 14:59                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-16 15:30                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-17 13:27     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-18 17:52       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-18 21:20         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-19  8:33           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-19 12:34             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-19 16:08               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-19 17:00                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-19 17:17                   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-04-19 18:00                     ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-19 17:36                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-19 17:50                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 12:37                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 12:20                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 13:57                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 15:51                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 20:37                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 13:10                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-21 15:45                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-24 14:41                             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 17:06                           ` [Patch] tests for org-remove-invisible Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 18:06                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-27 16:53                               ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-25 12:11                           ` [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-25 16:59                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:43                     ` Bastien
2021-05-15 22:09                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-16  6:04                         ` Bastien
2021-04-28  5:46     ` Bastien
2021-04-28  6:37       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-28  6:49         ` Bastien
2021-04-28  8:04           ` Bastien
2021-05-15 13:32             ` Bastien
2021-05-15 15:10               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:44                 ` Bastien
2021-04-12 13:50 Juan Manuel Macías
     [not found] <mailman.57.1618243212.17744.emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
2021-04-12 18:51 ` Ypo
2021-04-12 23:18   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-12 23:52     ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-13 14:16       ` Juan Manuel Macías

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