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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jan.seeger@thenybble.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, dal-blazej@onenetbeyond.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1636893678; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DgOt0ipxEH7N/7qJH+XP6V4neW09H6t21jzzXOJFIc8=; b=Ee05acFpiQ89BNyMSJ7vZGLtlBZ8+mxYSa3Mfz4YmvbaMLPRiPED61VFRlW8Nzj0ftY5hX JakCN+yLdPq2NKTHehKCGackEJ3QFD616tcLZ64lOzYBcV4MTlCk3xfsccEw69ZZKWQudi cFY2pRUOqRwrWjQk3T4G0n+9N49F1AuDxbs3Drnk6HH6RrVKikISBBDKfPuY1/4/BmJpm9 1UhDuRlYmqujQntNVqWFKsclSntc3S9+E5zDrJtOUOFR15Nu6/HdNFVH7jzqmPoDD+BR+S i5hJfz0sDXCNy8A1RLRGyg3q5xzYNnhyonft6IHGZDQLIoSg6PSDiNSCl4WS4Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1636893678; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=am1oRWcuPiMa1Ncko6IVGrcgWYDGew+gzyh3Va/mQpDKv0GKWN+LApndzSeilPsvzS5Bce /kUwWLnNPPWSvXuc8zmjJc3tDsN+wOLFEOlsHo+slr8gri+Lw7NP4iPIOhDjnuiizJ0TNk +eiV/E6l4kd2YV7P8y6DEm22gAaRS4hU2XvwuHclmDRIhFxKRBobO7/S1IRD6vQYWRA9Qz Izchnnj8PmJRnNeo7LbJ+zAlc8pVTSEHvL5PNmocNMSyEpTayGS4vRksvroJH7Q0y+NmC4 m7RDYC6oPNqBAWLGE48pZz1mYA+zxG/UZ9GyEMA035f/j1jM8Wrys1VWWVmHwg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=dCUrfZKv; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.24 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=dCUrfZKv; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 52E2B35C10 X-Spam-Score: -1.24 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: cQRfU5smeYuc Eric S Fraga writes: > On Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 14:08, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Can you elaborate? We are looking forward for ideas how to improve Org >> in this area. More concrete suggestions are welcome. > > I posted about this some weeks ago. It would be desirable to have org > manage window placement much less, if at all. Emacs has sufficient > customizations possible for window management, display-buffer-alist > being the default variable to customize. I am constantly fighting org > and find that it just does not allow me to configure window placement to > my satisfaction, especially on *ultra-wide* monitors. I thought that display-buffer-alist should be sufficient to control the window placement in Org. Isn't it (on main)? I recall you posted a message about "window management for logging and capturing notes", but you can easily change the capture window location with display-buffer-alist. > My suggestion would be to remove all/most window management from org > itself and simply suggest possible settings for display-buffer-alist, > say. We still need to have reasonable defaults. They can always be overwritten by display-buffer-alist. Best, Ihor