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It's been a while but, IIRC, the latter to a large extent; I should have been more clear. However, there have been changes in the past that affected the editing experience but I cannot remember if they were with v8 or v9 or somewhere in between, particularly dealing with locations of :LOGBOOK: and scheduling directives. These happened when Nikolas cleaned up the parsing, to the benefit of org but at the cost of making some documents non-compliant. Nevertheless, as others have stated, given the stability provided by Emacs (parts of my .emacs date back to 1985!), and org being all text, even breaking changes are usually trivial to correct or adjust to. -- : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.1-243-gad53c5 in Emacs 29.0.50 : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096