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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.77 X-Spam-Score: -6.77 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C807176C73 X-TUID: 1QWPb15TCyCa Matt writes: That's good point. Thank you Matt for links.=20 > However, before moving the section we'd need to find a way to introduce p= roperties before the checkboxes section. > > The Checkboxes section is written assuming the reader knows what Properti= es are. The GNU documentation guidelines suggest writing as though readers= have read from the beginning [fn:1] [fn:2]. That is, unless introducing a= concept, only use concepts that have already been explained. Properties a= re introduced in Section 2.7 and Checkboxes is currently 5.6. The proposa= l is to move Checkboxes to 2.6.1 *before* properties are introduced. This = is a problem. > > [fn:1] https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#Documentation > [fn:2] https://www.fsf.org/licensing/gnu-press/GNU-Press-styleguide.pdf Let's close this thread for now. Because in the patch I uploaded, it's too much of changes + relocation.=20 I think that first we need to simplify a bit, improve section '5.6 Checkboxes' - because currently it starts with a very complicated example and its description.=20 And checkbox is quite simple feature. So in a new thread I will post the changes regarding '5.6 Checkboxes'.=20 And then later we could consider relocating. --=20 S=C5=82awomir Grochowski