From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Bug: "SCHEDULED: " positioning is fragile [7.8.06 (release_7.8.06.181.ga481)] Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 14:49:14 +0200 Message-ID: <878vi5xe7p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871uo1l37g.fsf@gnu.org> <877gxpyxs6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59311) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHE0q-0003YF-3r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:48:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHE0n-000485-TE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:48:03 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:39165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHE0n-00047D-Hc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:48:01 -0400 Received: by wgbdr1 with SMTP id dr1so2903051wgb.30 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:47:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:20:27 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Dave Abrahams Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Wiegley Hi Dave, Dave Abrahams writes: > 1. I strongly disagree that that would be more useful. It would leave > the newbie trap and usability bug in place. Well, we disagree then :) I think it is useful to have a function that let everyone (not just newbies) know that some subtrees don't respect Org's writing conventions. > 2. John Wiegley has been working on some code that allows such things to > be trivially implemented and I'd rather not duplicate / overlap with > him. John, would you care to push your org-x stuff upstream soon? You might also look at org-element.el. FYI: Nicolas and I have been discussing about the issue you raised, and the integration of org-element.el will force us to be clearer about such cases, which is good. In the meantime, let's restate this again: don't put SCHEDULED: and DEADLINE: cookies anywhere else than on the line right below the headline. Thanks, -- Bastien