Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I don't understand. Are you talking about the error message? There is no > "canonical" C-down position, so I'm a bit confused. Put your cursor on the blank line between. Do a C-down. You will see the cursor moving and also an error reported. So, the "empty line" is a position where a C-down operation would land you in. It is a position from nowhere. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I see some issues when the point is position some where deep inside invisible parts of the tree. For example, visit "~/src/worg/org-tutorials/org-reference-guide-es.org" Get in to a state where ALL headlines are visible but none of body text is visible. Position your cursor randomly, like so. M-: (goto-char (mod (random) (point-max))) Then C-down. Within let's say 10 attempts, you will see that a headline is skipped and the cursor lands on subsequent headline.