From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:30:47 +0100 Message-ID: <878ugo8i60.fsf@gmx.us> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6Ec-0004Qg-Cp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:31:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6EY-0005IB-Ad for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:31:14 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6EY-0005I7-4o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:31:10 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6EQ-0006b4-Si for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:31:02 +0100 Received: from tsn109-201-154-208.dyn.nltelcom.net ([109.201.154.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:31:02 +0100 Received: from rasmus by tsn109-201-154-208.dyn.nltelcom.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:31:02 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi, Christian Moe writes: > I haven't yet announced it on the list, for three reasons. 1) Not very > polished. There's some messy code, a poor man's user interface, and no > editing support for multiple citations (but support for exporting > them!). 2) It's part of a more ambitious project I set myself for an > all-round citation system that I never got on with. 3) It uses this cool > idea I had for how to use citation links differently, but it imposes > certain syntax conventions on the user, and they may yet change in > backward-incompatible ways if I develop this further. I also have a very half-baked branch somewhere with preliminary code, but mainly in terms of syntax/org-element (similar to pandoc). IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess). #+begin_rant The current state is a mess and not portable. E.g. there's at least two Zotero projects, there's John Kitchin's code, there's ox-bibtex.el (which IMO is not suitable for complicated citation requirements), plus everyone and their mother's have got custom citation links in their config via custom org link types... /Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is missing for good academic publishing support. #+end_rant —Rasmus -- I hear there's rumors on the, uh, Internets. . .