Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Alain.Cochard]

Hello.

With variable org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags set to
true, tag completion does not work as I expect.  Specifically, upon
'C-c C-q' or 'C-c C-c', it works fine if I enter in the minibuffer
some letter and then press <TAB>, but not if I just press <TAB>; in
that case, a colon (:) is inserted in the minibuffer, and another
colon for each subsequent <TAB>, ad infinitum.  Is this normal?

Incidentally, shouldn't this variable be documented in the manual?
(Section "6.2 Setting tags" would seem a natural place for that.)  I
had to resort to internet search...

Regards,
Alain

I have:

GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of
2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org

Org mode version 9.1.12 (9.1.12-elpa @
/home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180427/)

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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> With variable org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags set to
> true, tag completion does not work as I expect.  Specifically, upon
> 'C-c C-q' or 'C-c C-c', it works fine if I enter in the minibuffer
> some letter and then press <TAB>, but not if I just press <TAB>; in
> that case, a colon (:) is inserted in the minibuffer, and another
> colon for each subsequent <TAB>, ad infinitum.  Is this normal?

Could you try again with master branch? Some changes related to tags
happened there recently.

> Incidentally, shouldn't this variable be documented in the manual?
> (Section "6.2 Setting tags" would seem a natural place for that.)  I
> had to resort to internet search...

I don't know specifically about this one, but not all variables can be
documented in the manual, there are too many of them. An alternate way
to find about a variable is to explore Org variables with 

  M-x customize-group <RET> org

Regards,

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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Bastien]

Hi Alain,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> With variable org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags set to
> true, tag completion does not work as I expect.  Specifically, upon
> 'C-c C-q' or 'C-c C-c', it works fine if I enter in the minibuffer
> some letter and then press <TAB>, but not if I just press <TAB>; in
> that case, a colon (:) is inserted in the minibuffer, and another
> colon for each subsequent <TAB>, ad infinitum.  Is this normal?

I could not reproduce this problem from Org 9.1.12 and the master
branch.  Can you try with a bare emacs -Q and report against maint
or master branch?

Thanks,

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 Bastien

Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Alain.Cochard]

Bastien writes on Tue  8 May 2018 10:17:
 > Hi Alain,
 > 
 > Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:
 > 
 > > With variable org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags set to
 > > true, tag completion does not work as I expect.  Specifically, upon
 > > 'C-c C-q' or 'C-c C-c', it works fine if I enter in the minibuffer
 > > some letter and then press <TAB>, but not if I just press <TAB>; in
 > > that case, a colon (:) is inserted in the minibuffer, and another
 > > colon for each subsequent <TAB>, ad infinitum.  Is this normal?
 > 
 > I could not reproduce this problem from Org 9.1.12 and the master
 > branch.  Can you try with a bare emacs -Q and report against maint
 > or master branch?

Hello.  Sorry for the late feedback.  Since Nicolas' answer I have
been trying to get acquainted with getting Org from git. I made some
progress, but am not sure I am there yet.  So there is the initial
issue and there is the git issue, hence the probably
poorly-ordered/poorly-thought points which follow.

* Since 9.1.13 appeared, I have updated to it:

(Fedora 23) Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+
Version 3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Package: Org mode version 9.1.13 (9.1.13-elpa @
/home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180507/)

and the problem remains.

* I have been able to test on another machine:

(Fedora 26) Emacs : GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+
Version 3.22.19) of 2017-09-12 Package: Org mode version 9.1.13
(9.1.13-elpa @ /root/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180507/)

and the problem is /not/ there.

* In all cases above I used command 'emacs' with a void .emacs,
setting variables org-agenda-files and
org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags using 'M-x
eval-expression'.

* You ask "Can you try with a bare emacs -Q and report against maint
or master branch?"

Sorry, your question is not explicit enough for me (one or two
questions?).  For sure, with emacs -Q, it gives:

Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org Package:
Org-mode version 8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @
/usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/org/)

and the problem is there.

Did you mean 'emacs -Q' with some git branch?  If so, I don't know how
to do it...

* I have learned about master and maint at

https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/index.html

* I have tried to install a git repository.  For this I have tried to
follow

https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org4beginners.html

section "Running the latest version of Org mode"

It might be for beginners, but it was not easy for me, so I am not
sure I did it right.  [In particular I had to hide my .emacs.d
directory, and was not sure about (require 'org-install) vs (require
'org) vs no require at all, in the .emacs file.]

I got:

Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org Package:
Org mode version 9.1.13 (release_9.1.13-744-g13fb6a @
/home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/)

Is that the master branch?

With this setup, the problem remains.

* About getting git:

In addition to section "Running the latest version of Org mode" at
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org4beginners.html, I also read
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#keeping-current-with-Org-mode-development,
as well as section "1.2 Installation" of the manual (v9.1.13),
subsection "Using Org's git repository".

Are those 3 sources are supposed to provide essentially the same
pieces of information?  If so maybe they could be
merged/updated/coordinated?


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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Gregor Zattler]

Hi Alain,
* Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr [2018-05-12; 08:32]:
> I got:
>
> Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
> 3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org Package:
> Org mode version 9.1.13 (release_9.1.13-744-g13fb6a @
> /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/)
>
> Is that the master branch?

Seems so.

> Did you mean 'emacs -Q' with some git branch?  If so, I don't know how
> to do it...

emacs -Q -L /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/ 

which ads git Org to the load-path 

perhaps even

emacs -Q -L /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/ -l /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/org.el 

which even loads Org mode.

You could write a small file with the necessary settings and load
it also 

emacs -Q -L /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/ -l /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/org.el -l /tmp/minimal-exaple.el

Ciao; Gregor
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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Alain.Cochard]

Gregor Zattler writes on Sat 12 May 2018 10:20:

 > > Did you mean 'emacs -Q' with some git branch?  If so, I don't
 > > know how to do it...
 > 
 > emacs -Q -L /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/ 
 > 
 > which ads git Org to the load-path 
 > 
 > perhaps even
 > 
 > emacs -Q -L /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/ -l
 > /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/org.el
 > 
 > which even loads Org mode.

Many thanks, Gregor.

With both of your suggestions, the problem is there.

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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> Did you mean 'emacs -Q' with some git branch?  If so, I don't know how
> to do it...

Yes. It means "emacs -Q" and a recent Org loaded. See below.

> Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
> 3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org Package:
> Org mode version 9.1.13 (release_9.1.13-744-g13fb6a @
> /home/cochard/Org/Coch-git/org-mode/lisp/)
>
> Is that the master branch?

It looks like so.

> With this setup, the problem remains.

Here is what I did.

I created a file "mini-init.el", containing the following lines:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/org-mode/lisp/")
(setq org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags t)
(setq org-agenda-files '("/tmp/bug-agenda.org"))
(find-file "/tmp/bug-agenda2.org")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The file "/tmp/bug-agenda.org" contains the following:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* Foo :bar:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The file "/tmp/bug-agenda2.org" is an empty file.

I then run:

    emacs -Q -l mini-init.el

When in the empty document ("bug-agenda2.org"), I type "* H", then C-c
C-q then <TAB>, I get "bar" in the minibuffer and no colon is inserted.

So, I cannot reproduce your issue.

> Are those 3 sources are supposed to provide essentially the same
> pieces of information?  If so maybe they could be
> merged/updated/coordinated?

The sole official documentation is the manual. Worg is edited by users.
Of course, it would be nice if they could be coordinated, but we need
volunteers for that.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Alain.Cochard]

Nicolas Goaziou writes on Sun 13 May 2018 23:01:

 > Here is what I did.
 > 
 > I created a file "mini-init.el", containing the following lines:
 > 
 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
 > (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/org-mode/lisp/")
 > (setq org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags t)
 > (setq org-agenda-files '("/tmp/bug-agenda.org"))
 > (find-file "/tmp/bug-agenda2.org")
 > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
 > 
 > The file "/tmp/bug-agenda.org" contains the following:
 > 
 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
 > * Foo :bar:
 > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
 > 
 > The file "/tmp/bug-agenda2.org" is an empty file.
 > 
 > I then run:
 > 
 >     emacs -Q -l mini-init.el
 > 
 > When in the empty document ("bug-agenda2.org"), I type "* H", then C-c
 > C-q then <TAB>, I get "bar" in the minibuffer and no colon is inserted.
 > 
 > So, I cannot reproduce your issue.

Thank you for not giving up on me!  Turned out that the problem was
due to a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda files...

Specifically, doing as you did above, I don't have the problem, while
I do get it if replacing ":bar:" by "::bar:" or ":foo::bar:" in
"/tmp/bug-agenda.org".

I should note, however, that org-lint does not complain about the "::"
occurrence.

Regards

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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> Thank you for not giving up on me!  Turned out that the problem was
> due to a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda files...
>
> Specifically, doing as you did above, I don't have the problem, while
> I do get it if replacing ":bar:" by "::bar:" or ":foo::bar:" in
> "/tmp/bug-agenda.org".
>
> I should note, however, that org-lint does not complain about the "::"
> occurrence.

Could you describe exactly the context where that happened? I.e., what
is exactly "a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda
files...":

    * This :tag::tag2:

or that:

    #+TAGS: tag1 :: tag2


Regards,

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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Alain.Cochard]

Nicolas Goaziou writes on Mon 14 May 2018 16:43:
 > Hello,
 > 
 > Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:
 > 
 > > Thank you for not giving up on me!  Turned out that the problem was
 > > due to a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda files...
 > >
 > > Specifically, doing as you did above, I don't have the problem, while
 > > I do get it if replacing ":bar:" by "::bar:" or ":foo::bar:" in
 > > "/tmp/bug-agenda.org".
 > >
 > > I should note, however, that org-lint does not complain about the "::"
 > > occurrence.
 > 
 > Could you describe exactly the context where that happened? I.e., what
 > is exactly "a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda
 > files...":
 > 
 >     * This :tag::tag2:

Yes, this.

 > or that:
 > 
 >     #+TAGS: tag1 :: tag2

Not that, but I just tried: it does not trigger the problem.


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Re: Tag completion does not work well with org-complete-tags-always-offer-all-agenda-tags

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

>  > Could you describe exactly the context where that happened? I.e., what
>  > is exactly "a "::" in one of my tag lists in one of my agenda
>  > files...":
>  > 
>  >     * This :tag::tag2:
>
> Yes, this.

OK. I added a checker in Org Lint.