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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=default; t=1586497259; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=RMjZewduOcErSy9SThNJQy7s2RkTmsR2FfQHMwcwHAM=; b=qi9H8k6TYQSBZyWpue8QhWcf7C9lr/0RsaPsOtIV8qaZQ+ngVY8PPbbpYqXY82TbaqWQMa Qwdsuag5PMp1AntcLB3d1X7Id2haQmt5VJVvx2Nlc+6WxdwP4Thb3w3j8fGT+TFLXWDJAK YeTv3Av5VBtovGUUUVY1MKOjeN1bwAY= ARC-Seal: i=1; s=default; d=yhetil.org; t=1586497259; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AAmWkSnDS0mOCEsQaa36mbm6Wv6JSLX9qbYqIkp1W2Axb2/uAdZT6i1B/pyMyqnE86XUdU y3FZABjehPIuw+bHF7XLI9Ffn1vldDTX6HnXg6kxh0jsNYM3JcBGgKrryzEYLqecaFIxu9 E2B7tCUqimxIFIG3/kzNvDqHQhc2Djc= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=zeitkraut.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -0.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=zeitkraut.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-0.91 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.58019254003243]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.30), country: US(-0.01), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.58)]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[albert@zeitkraut.de,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[zeitkraut.de : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none] X-TUID: sTMshxrKt7Kn Bruce D'Arcus writes: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:38 AM Albert Krewinkel wro= te: >> Bruce D'Arcus writes: >> >> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:32 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> >> "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: >> >> >> >> > Note that in CSL processors, the locators are meaningful key-values, >> >> > basically; not plain text strings. >> >> >> >> OK, but it is enough for Org to feed a CSL processor with, e.g., >> >> >> >> key -> "@doe99" >> >> prefix -> "see " >> >> suffix -> ", pp. 33-35" >> >> >> >> Then CSL processor does its job to extract whatever information it >> >> needs. Am I right? >> > >> > On this, I would defer to Andr=C3=A1s and Albert (who maintains the pa= ndoc >> > org code, I believe). >> >> Yes, that is correct. Pandoc parses `prefix` and `suffix` as markup, so >> the pp in ", /pp/. 33-35." would be italicized. > > And Pandoc parses that "suffix" into two parts: the locators, and the > suffix proper. "Pandoc", as used above, is probably meant to include pandoc-citeproc, the CSL processor shipped with pandoc. Pandoc itself does not process the prefix/suffix values further, but leaves that to pandoc-citeproc: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/blob/d7eb5fd15980ba40d7bffd6d2f031a2= 29881668f/src/Text/CSL/Pandoc.hs#L471 > In this example, from the CSL perspective, there is no suffix; just a loc= ator. >From pandoc's point of view, there is no difference. Org-mode could probably take a similar stance. > So to answer Nicholes' "CSL processor does its job" question, the > answer would be "yes'; correct? Agree. -- Albert Krewinkel GPG: 8eed e3e2 e8c5 6f18 81fe e836 388d c0b2 1f63 1124