From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 9IdRH65tVGB2EAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:23:58 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id kMehGq5tVGBiWwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:23:58 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7F4816376 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:23:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNBMK-0000H6-NR for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:23:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36546) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNBKx-0000FA-Vm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:22:33 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:48015) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNBKt-0003pq-Ke for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:22:31 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C17D2400FB for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:22:24 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1616145744; bh=vXpUgXah6NYcO1aqRXGk082iskYYXhXdl77U3QLwD9U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=mD6x07OV6/wKZZmowWGkf9ftA8zPERN6Me/NRlCOGikVOU6aNlxAB959RPCzL4l5B kW0Sp/VJzTxVAH7ttGEwhKZcedhLCjK1ibqps9KGd9iE5AAMg+VOBCBzBQ57LN5wqM zBBz6YX11lIqwKAh36elfv7UHD2QFzs4IwwZ3DwzmzxLlwjcYaHb7LOm29fvYv3bfc 06NH/SOhlx8F0NGpTADMsXGabEadpWvGGk2JfnAknfQiDXi7RwlibLdk63L5A8j5il TSSo4hCaBg5HdNj8ehDgywTRS2wYbBlObB4lRI/TLl2JR3WQ1vCSuD1yz5IrSz8OD3 ZGDLwOLGJPPHg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F1z1q1Sfgz9rxM; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:22:22 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: tomas@tuxteam.de Subject: Re: Syntax Proposal: Multi-line Table Cells/Text Wrapping References: <7a450ea3-b0e4-3322-04cd-fb5a5a555db8@gmx.com> <87o8fgwn9s.fsf@gmail.com> <9533dd41-ec81-43dd-8d25-a41300eb720c@gmx.com> <87czvw85ym.fsf@gmail.com> <8735wsdr08.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319080843.GA24268@tuxteam.de> <87ft0rzg5b.fsf@posteo.net> <20210319085339.GC24268@tuxteam.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:22:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210319085339.GC24268@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:53:39 +0100") Message-ID: <878s6jzeer.fsf@posteo.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616145837; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=vgoxE/Jh01CC1n7qAQDNE7ly7THr93t19BYSbbzw9Eg=; b=meOYSfmIf9pC1QbjTcdim7K1a1Cp4SbvpY+GaMIpuEpJW2YFLgk/Tnx20vibyMCoPcPcw3 k2aEJlq7XhG7vBXoulAg95dq5jjUscHKwKtHv8jSv+6eEUxzOk9d9dFmKoNy5NR513Wx8p YO3e2qkUl9BN5mI1r/tsfYF8P+2DAgQ23DzDBKGKiEpCq76sYkOsKnTIB0WF37jpRKgdwf NPjmJ4Ggz/i1q0QW0t+I3oNYMLf4OSwwuxMFqpaB245504XAgLWGwBw5+Fsg9jUo+eZy5m DuqXMJBTUoPB6DWk7QUYhMVlAEValIfHPX0JKDuVUQHdIxQESbZx0VYevuDfpA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616145837; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=J4PJN7WGC6DYWerprbHLI5Pyg3LjlzRoe2yzTMZWbRLAwJBr3l9+msLIuSIAP+FrWKYSAS 38iR3/c+qipIsO4iiKXskThyTo22Hf5iIAVpxb4ImUldRPTA13Ai8m8CSviJ11ojXiHx6l UIeau2j9Wscl82jBrmLHaLJuwVFS9x3evpfCKrWHM+6rbDjbiTLk0L3K1s1cwK7s7G8gLx XF8c6tdiaWL3bQzny0kbValyw3Oq2kMQNIlmHnwp0P21m8oPw7AUZZqmHaqnBTiBFkn9EI KxOqUre7fAB1jwzjgvcKf4xNxioyBUYFiMSE/9gaeWAkp517Xy8lErNdcMIULw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=mD6x07OV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=mD6x07OV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B7F4816376 X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: MEVtrINUSByM tomas@tuxteam.de writes: > My post was rather a warning that "multi-line" will mean > different things to different people. Yes I agree. It is not the same as how a table is represented in Org and how it should be rendered when exported to some typographic format like (let's say) LaTeX. I think also 'multi-line' is a very imprecise concept for Org tables. If we are talking about a cell whose content is a paragraph, then for LaTeX it is no problem, with the help of the tabularx package (in these contexts it is the best solution). The problem here (IMHO) is a problem of discomfort of edit within Org, when the cell has a lot of text and when we are under the 'tyranny' of the single line. Luckily it is not a very extended issue, and the tables in Org are much easier to view and edit than in LaTeX code, when it comes to simple cells. What happens is that the LaTeX's `tabular(x)' environment encompasses many more (typographic) contexts than the concept of `table' in Org. It is a translation problem between Org and LaTeX and vice versa... Best regards, Juan Manuel