From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id MJ/zAM0uU2OaYAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 01:44:13 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id YK0fAM0uU2NSJAAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 01:44:13 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3D203986C for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 01:44:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1om0CJ-00045s-Ey; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 18:08:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olxkk-00036C-5A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:32:22 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olxka-0005qC-7B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:32:21 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 852F7240105 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:32:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1666380728; bh=bqZRXKDChwzvPFme41UVFSfHLoXhD3UKAbvJPS4Vnq8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=hxmWqcaf0Cwo/mp5zKvMfgL9ALoa80Zev8a5JaFjlTv4z6waGQ9zk7Cjela4PIIQY 2SMWme432Ki71+oAPF4Ev9TvQL8MZ19tJgDX+aQQIRWxbnTGfW88LBrN48aLqhWF5W xMTkkaPakuUg5tRewtt9qLGFkDz9fOo6Y9EfDCKUfETkxPNotrcCT0tQSJKW0jRuZI tpQl3O1hf+eiu0i0tdQTSZ8iT/KpD5tV0/XHXdrNUa8LFep5lji4vtNB5vvz7ECYx+ IQLWvImnTiM9tWLKvC6i1aGREZX2l6d4jflYIBSZvrpPgF10kdhGYxwpzwQQEtHHE9 iKkkHxxiE4AdA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4MvF390r81z6tmN; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:32:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Max Nikulin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: Line breaks and brackets in LaTeX export References: <875ygk6a8z.fsf@posteo.net> <87a65vitbz.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <87edv6izx4.fsf@localhost> <8735bmelgu.fsf@posteo.net> <878rlecx49.fsf@posteo.net> <874jw2conh.fsf@posteo.net> <87edv5hhgb.fsf@localhost> <87o7u9rz1a.fsf@posteo.net> <87o7u8cvox.fsf@localhost> <87wn8wysg0.fsf@posteo.net> <87lepcyozt.fsf@posteo.net> <65a1c205-cd18-4abe-b36d-a93763d7f5e8@gmail.com> <87tu3ywi2t.fsf@posteo.net> <877d0t7std.fsf@localhost> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:32:02 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Max Nikulin's message of "Fri, 21 Oct 2022 23:38:29 +0700") Message-ID: <878rl90y8d.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666395852; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ebPKg9IaUowOlKKbgILcV+WhPYbRxiH64LHL3r1w1UE=; b=sgffNIAfgHoFQVUKrrlThhcaXex2RWCo0FXTmQmUGaJLu7XXUfdKM7LU5ndtBLDW7Uv5VS RNjn5kAmX9t21wYbEuyVBEYbTV0FGo6r/0zJZyB8FJ1EMHnGr0hY98fD/lFJO+13cvUgpR Je67dZQjysB0Q2zB+S1sIyVJ6eiAfsiFHeOJxKz0Rgh298GzkKzFv6HfnEHMRUq77ltSwh DeZXCzI/CDRNSkL4eNYukU5IXJcqeGOcxUtGamYw819//y1H5P3fcsNmBS0zkoF6ahGpTi nz1+uND+RKWATmmc+gmQttB9aJ9pNL9kv9KK+Ax5TqjiP0kDwlSMzlhko/U3gw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666395852; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fXtYu6gCgUQsovxV0Jo6WUr2876NpwVf/UKc0QQieKQ88UTzuZG0mCKj+m7OHovAIHKauS 6Nwck1zhxtvuwl3suku4HnRGsWEpihWvkyjtkEJNixKu2w/jhiWZVUVb7qpznFwZ6GO5KH MMEj+kcILgt+/9z73dxYf/BrsOel8vxHlIU2lIxkuoKShMdy1kQd9nwvv4Q2nV+8qN2b1T mDvC5HvNh+F8eu/Zgu1BsIfRPdOtVc/t/MRt185bT0DMf0cS2XycRvZD2MPtA9d4YJJVhN LV2XSxKcAhYjU1u+CyEUysn7FLtXCu1NJsGtPvniuGbLw8Kn7ynH65806imVlw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=hxmWqcaf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.04 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=hxmWqcaf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A3D203986C X-Spam-Score: -4.04 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: DU9MVOvIXNyt Max Nikulin writes: > My impression is that tabularray has an ambitious goal to replace all > current table packages. I have no idea if other packages will adopt > similar approach with regexp-based parsing instead of usual expanding > of TeX commands. Yes, that's the impression I have too. Tabularray certainly solves a lot of traditional LaTeX table problems (unfortunately not the one we're dealing with). Time will tell if it also creates other new problems. In any case, it brings a lot of flexibility to a part of LaTeX, tables, that has always suffered from a certain constriction. We'll see what happens. LaTeX is becoming very complex and now several layers coexist, since the jump to LaTeX 3 is going to be gradual. On the other hand, I don't know if the latex core developers have a cleaner \\ command in their roadmap, without those absurd current problems (and that LaTeX has been carrying for almost 40 years). > I do not like necessity to add \NewTableCommand\empty{} to documents > somehow (only if tabularray is loaded). I do not have an idea better > than \\[0pt] and an optimizing filter to remove [0pt] in almost all > cases. I totally agree. Best regards, Juan Manuel