From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id mCHXCnla2WOfUAAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:14:17 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id AEzbCnla2WMpkAAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:14:17 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E3973E92E for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:14:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMv88-0006eF-By; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 13:13:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMv85-0006dB-UP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 13:13:14 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMv84-00032s-0J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 13:13:13 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39F1D24062E for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:13:08 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1675188788; bh=XRRXFza8ViF3rliVrvFPlF7e/DgqXSa5aPA/ZxXOlqg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=YraoAhG7l+novxzkENxO3UOiRM//Ev7jhxE+7znbU0EFpXHwO+TSgmCRvhxdbIN1U DCvgyVbVGgDvi1/hyZmKlilRyswZE1kuO6da5aNytBAPJLHnOBdBpWKpHesJd3NJ6W BDlaTs3RDNVk/V/H/5zVsiTk5RZusqWzaPYh1JVa5A3xhjt+zE+SEgnjar9BNkJCvE 6IXYclkGQYT6se2A6Kul0QutsQlCw9c1jcyJmGlOVGwDzgSLdELidCExXhZFFI0WMk O+JBP+1/7pQdmhStFB3joMjvXYJNqJMrftrJvLvGZLnJmAz3DGKdcwawgmdE6vlFu3 xl+BxE17xmesg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4P5tSz2yXnz9rxD; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:13:07 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: "Fraga, Eric" Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Subject: Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info In-Reply-To: <87k012oafa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87r0vtiks0.fsf@localhost> <63c671c0.a70a0220.61aa5.56b8@mx.google.com> <87fsc88aq9.fsf@localhost> <63c7dd3d.170a0220.6b4d6.f84f@mx.google.com> <877cxk6oeu.fsf@localhost> <63c86454.170a0220.80970.652d@mx.google.com> <63c8f5a6.170a0220.ea8cf.7f96@mx.google.com> <63c9b654.170a0220.d82d2.4254@mx.google.com> <87mt6e86sr.fsf@tsdye.online> <63c9d976.620a0220.a7d40.113b@mx.google.com> <87tu0mjb24.fsf@tsdye.online> <63ca1283.170a0220.5bc81.0fdd@mx.google.com> <87pmb9k8oi.fsf@tsdye.online> <3035CDD5-41DD-4516-9E4E-9E0DF16BE2E0@gmail.com> <87lelo8c9r.fsf@localhost> <2150768.1675077958@archlinux> <87tu063ox2.fsf@localhost> <87k012oafa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 18:13:40 +0000 Message-ID: <878rhimv1n.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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My needs are simple, however, so whatever is easiest to > implement would be fine with me. I'm not bothered, for instance, about > the daylight savings transition as I'm usually in bed... ;-) To clarify, it is not first or second. (1), (2), and (3) are all the options to be incorporated. It is not a choice. Users just might need different combinations depending on specific needs. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at