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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1688313418; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iKYY+7wvtbeFthccBjiA2fPXy42glEAPobDNbqVh+Jp8BqfHLwpXKKlTtMwDhA928zJKGb uMNhOZNaxLnzkeDW3hFC3zQQubz1oDXykhB55K0b5eGbEeCB52BUQWZC9XjJ8qmKjkGwmW ck097ioUrlR9kCQMA0aW8BZflW8ZCG9wlY/EF1XkChm/b2AndDUNuxGdF7dn8OjMXR3WCr XDX+9frKXIlEg7mOPL3zrf/3/QstC83pnw/MFY4Ms/85hHrv8/xSfq6eYXBpjGP5WVYpkr A2T7460Q4MXI00ItFkbrjvJy4Ni+qO5jKb4tVX4PLWljisG10tgGEEH4ZqBAgA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=s29768273 header.b="dRsNGm/r"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1688313418; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=4Ra8ZGKTafVaJFY9ocqGGB77OZj2w4y4EmvIpbw+TCw=; b=a2ppel5n2CoT7J494X1eL08WBw7MlTB6gAm/MW0McMdjYkh5/N/W9HqRCq1MB/hrtwfkKm U1cXA1zTCo64ZsVz00NUm4ROZzbidK9pWdfqielu10kuu2drySLQyrlv64krizMlZcv2gP kUOuY2r0JFjhf0c2e9ofBxGVphFaV2+IXNLlUYY2H9uAau+n8qapZK5ElV7RekZebrPAgz 4RaCxSgZX9+cqN8VPh/vKMvx3T/B/v/mT/rv3zzWnMXA8JwsYtbHLtbo6Q4l6cXtlUALMh 2ka5Hx1KQNYQ4VOUymOS6f7noSXIqta/d3KSSnslO+tjWyc/CJkKr7IdihqO8w== Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=s29768273 header.b="dRsNGm/r"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.85 X-Spam-Score: -11.85 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 52B453CA3A X-TUID: N7fMmwsritT5 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Nobis writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> The downside of lualatex is that it is slower: >> https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87a69j9c6s.fsf@localhost/ > > Yes, for sure. But I have the impression that newer versions of luatex > have become a bit faster (maybe it's just a subjective impression that > I want to be true, because I don't want to regret the complete switch > to luatex). :) > > On the other hand: Luatex is much more flexible and has better support > for modern fonts and modern font render engines. > > It depends what one assumes to be the most common use case for Org. If > it's many rather short and simple documents then pdftex should suffice > most of the time and the fast compile speed will matter. If we want to Isn=E2=80=99t the speed more relevant for large documents? Small documents = don=E2=80=99t need the speed that much, but for my 300 page roleplaying book I already feel the compile times a lot (with pdflatex). 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