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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.99 X-Spam-Score: -4.99 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AF3535B4ED X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-TUID: eYzOvxkbwTu2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Russell Adams writes: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 01:44:03PM +0000, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Russell Adams writes: >> >> >> What do you mean? >> > >> > I think Markdown has different levels? >> >> Do you mean # title vs. ## title? > > > > look at the alternate syntax where they under line with different symbols. > >> > Has there ever been a reason to diversify the heading syntax to allow >> > levels or changes in visibility? >> > >> > ** TODO >> > >> > `=3D' TODO Inline item under todo >> > >> > =E2=80=94 DONE something else? >> > >> > ### TODO invis to all except interactive editing >> >> That=E2=80=99s even more features. I feel confused about what you are tr= ying to >> convey. > > It is, but it=E2=80=99s just brainstorming along the lines of needing an > inline task syntax. > > We have a solid heading syntax, with one or more asterisks followed by > keywords and heading metadata. Given we=E2=80=99re talking about adding m= ore > flags in the metadata, I=E2=80=99m just asking if we should consider > alternatives to just asterisks to help indicate differences. > > An inline task exempt from folding should be eye catching to > differentiate it from other headings. Perhaps something other than > asterisks is appropriate? > > =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94= =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2= =80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 > Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com > As someone who only uses orgmode, I personally find the logical distinction= between inline and normal headings not compelling enough to justify adding= new syntax besides asterisks. Frequently I hear orgmode=E2=80=99s extremel= y simple syntax lauded in comparison to something like markdown. Just some = thoughts. =E2=80=93shortcut --=-=-=--