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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.93 X-Spam-Score: -5.93 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A818B183D6 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: BBXR7BnfI6US On Thursday, April 11, 2024, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Christian Barthel writes: > >> I'd like to suggest adding a new prefix arg i.e. >> `C-u C-u org-clone-subtree-with-item-shift' to reverse >> the order of newly created / cloned siblings. Would >> that be of interest for other orgmode users? > > May you explain your use case a bit more? The reason: I often use the `org-tree-to-indirect-buffer'. But when adding a new sub-node with org-capture, it often was not shown inside this indirect buffer. Therefore, I prepended all items with org-capture (:prepend t). To intermix this capturing process with the org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift, it would have been nice to specify the ordering. *However* - this seems to be working with Emacs 29.3(?). (I updated my Emacs to verify the current situation). So I guess, this is actually no longer necessary for my workflow and I can set :prepend to `nil' On the other hand: There are ways to specify the ordering like org-reverse-note-order. Would it make sense to have one global `org-reverse-order' that is dealing with reversing "everything" that is somehow dependent on ordering? =2D- Christian Barthel