Language support for C# in org-babel

Language support for C# in org-babel

[poverobuosodonati]

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Hi guys,
 

 
I am a newbie in that I've never contributed so far. Thus, I would like to start this journey with pinging the mailing list first as it is indicated in the contributing documentation.
 

 
As far as I know, there is currently no language support for C# withi org-babel.
 
As this (evaluating C# code-blocks) is occasionally helpful for my workflow, I went ahead and wrote an integration following the excellent documentation found here (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html).
 

 
Are there any objections against me trying to upstream this addition? I would go ahead and try to open a pull request following the guidelines from this documentation (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html) if there are none. Or is there a better way/no need for it in the first place?
 

 
I am happy about any feedback on the matter :)
 

 
Thank you very much in advance,
 

 
Best regards,
 
Max
 

 

 
 
 

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Re: Language support for C# in org-babel

[Leo Butler]

On Mon, Jan 06 2025, poverobuosodonati <poverobuosodonati@gmail.com> wrote:

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>  
> Hi guys,
>  
>
>  
> I am a newbie in that I've never contributed so far. Thus, I would like to start this journey with pinging the mailing list first as it is indicated in the contributing documentation.
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Welcome.

>
>  
> As far as I know, there is currently no language support for C# withi org-babel.
>  
> As this (evaluating C# code-blocks) is occasionally helpful for my
> workflow, I went ahead and wrote an integration following the
> excellent documentation found here
> (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html).

Have you looked at ob-C.el or ob-java.el? I am not sure how similar C#
is to either C/C++/D or Java, but it may make sense to try to extend one
of those.

>  
> Are there any objections against me trying to upstream this addition?
> I would go ahead and try to open a pull request following the
> guidelines from this documentation
> (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html) if there are none. Or
> is there a better way/no need for it in the first place?

See the instructions at

https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#first-patch

Best regards,
Leo

Re: Language support for C# in org-babel

[Buoso Donati]

Thanks a lot for your input!

> Have you looked at ob-C.el or ob-java.el? I am not sure how similar C#
> is to either C/C++/D or Java, but it may make sense to try to extend one
> of those.

In fact, I was most inspired by the existing ob-C.el and ob-java.el!
 From what I understand C# (in conjunction with csproj-files) is 
"different enough" from C/C++ and Java (I don't feel particularly 
comfortable judging the D language) that it somewhat makes sense to 
create an individual file integrating it (as opposed to increase the 
complexity with existing integrations).
I will however consider this and re-evaluate my initial concept with 
your feedback.

> See the instructions at
>
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#first-patch
I would go ahead and follow these instructions trying to contribute the 
draft. This also makes it easier for me to show what I mean and 
elaborate on the concept (and the differences to existing integrations) 
potentially.

Best regards,
Max


On 06.01.25 19:19, Leo Butler wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06 2025, poverobuosodonati <poverobuosodonati@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>   
>> Hi guys,
>>   
>>
>>   
>> I am a newbie in that I've never contributed so far. Thus, I would like to start this journey with pinging the mailing list first as it is indicated in the contributing documentation.
>>   
> Welcome.
>
>>   
>> As far as I know, there is currently no language support for C# withi org-babel.
>>   
>> As this (evaluating C# code-blocks) is occasionally helpful for my
>> workflow, I went ahead and wrote an integration following the
>> excellent documentation found here
>> (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html).
> Have you looked at ob-C.el or ob-java.el? I am not sure how similar C#
> is to either C/C++/D or Java, but it may make sense to try to extend one
> of those.
>
>>   
>> Are there any objections against me trying to upstream this addition?
>> I would go ahead and try to open a pull request following the
>> guidelines from this documentation
>> (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html) if there are none. Or
>> is there a better way/no need for it in the first place?
> See the instructions at
>
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#first-patch
>
> Best regards,
> Leo

Re: Language support for C# in org-babel

[Ihor Radchenko]

Buoso Donati <poverobuosodonati@gmail.com> writes:

> Are there any objections against me trying to upstream this addition?

C# is a popular language. I have no objections to adding it to the core.

> ... I would go ahead and try to open a pull request following the
> guidelines from this documentation
> (https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html) if there are none. Or
> is there a better way/no need for it in the first place?

If you can, please do follow what is written in our contribution guide.
But feel free to ask us anything if you encounter difficulties.
You do not have to go through all the requirements alone.

> In fact, I was most inspired by the existing ob-C.el and ob-java.el!
>  From what I understand C# (in conjunction with csproj-files) is 
> "different enough" from C/C++ and Java (I don't feel particularly 
> comfortable judging the D language) that it somewhat makes sense to 
> create an individual file integrating it (as opposed to increase the 
> complexity with existing integrations).
> I will however consider this and re-evaluate my initial concept with 
> your feedback.

Generally, it only makes sense to extend an existing library if there is
very significant code sharing. Otherwise, no need to complicate things.

Also, before you proceed, note that there is ob-csharp in org-contrib
repository:
https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/tree/master/item/lisp/ob-csharp.el
It is very simplistic though. Just letting you know so that you are
aware.

You do not need to reuse that file or anything like that - we *cannot*
use that file because its author did not sign copyright papers. (BTW,
you do need to do it - let me know if you need any assistance)

After your future patch is accepted, we will likely remove ob-csharp
from org-contrib. Which means that you should name the new library
ob-csharp as well - it will serve as the replacement.

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