From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id iOggFGYdUV/naAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:44:22 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 2PbuD2YdUV/0JAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:44:22 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA17A9403D2 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2020 16:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDsLU-0001x6-44 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 12:44:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDsL4-0001vY-SP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 12:43:54 -0400 Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:49502 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDsL2-0004l7-VG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 12:43:54 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kDsKz-0007Kc-22 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 18:43:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Putting the value of page-delimiter in some outline regexps? Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:43:38 -0700 Message-ID: <877dtaizet.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dtcakrb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wo1bw7jo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TOksCuDpJM9Ee5HRatPJLS3EBvQ= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/03 12:43:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=ericabrahamsen.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.59 X-TUID: rIZrMgTwqu/E Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I've been trying to find a way to cordon off the bottom of my Org files, >> to create an area for file-local variables and "LocalWords" and what >> have you that Org doesn't consider part of the file's final heading. >> >> The usual Emacs thing to do seems to be using the value of >> page-delimiter to demarcate the end of content, and the beginning of >> meta data. I stuck that into the value of `org-outline-regexp', and also >> hard-coded it into the "true heading" branch of `org-end-of-subtree'. >> Over the past day this has worked fine for interactive use, and some >> automatic Org-based tools. But I'm not so naive as to think that >> catastrophic breakage couldn't be right around the corner as a result of >> this! >> >> Anyway, I wanted to see if anyone else had tried this, or had any ideas >> about it. > > I think Org already puts some care into preserving file-local variables > at the end of the buffer, e.g., when moving around headlines. Maybe the > issues you're encountering can be fixed the same way. Do you mean `org-preserve-local-variables'? I think it would make sense to put `page-delimiter' in the re-search-backward regexp. We could also consider putting in the value of some of the ispell-*-keyword constants, but it might also be reasonable to just ask the user to hide all that stuff under a page-delimiter. This still doesn't stop `org-next-visible-heading' or `org-end-of-subtree' from treating the end matter as part of the last heading. This would only be a minor inconvenience if I weren't trying to write some automatic tools on top of Org. But perhaps I should be making my tools smarter, not insisting that Org get smarter. > Adding page delimiter in `org-outline-regexp' is clearly not subtle > enough in any case, as it would affect every headline, not only the last > one in the buffer. No, I guess I didn't really think that was going to be a practical solution. Thanks for considering this, Eric