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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:08:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dl6atpj.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s54kia$bb1$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Maxim Nikulin's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2021 00:31:53 +0700")

Hi, Maxim,

Thanks for clearing things up. So it seems obvious that the root
of the problem is in the locales and the collation rules.

The situation is that with locales configured for Spanish from Spain
(en_ES.UTF-8) the list is not ordered correctly, unless those three
spaces from org-sort-remove-invisible are removed. But I couldn't say
why or if that would be appropriate as a patch...

Regarding the collation rule of forms with emphasis, at least in Spanish
these should come after the non-emphasized forms. I don't know if this
is a general rule also for other languages (at least it seems more
natural that the forms without emphasis are placed before). 

Best regards,

Juan Manuel

Maxim Nikulin writes:

> I could reproduce such result but I am in doubt if it is a reason to
> merge the patch. I believe, the following behavior is almost expected
>
> list.org:
> - v
> - /v/
> - /a/
> - a
>
> LC_COLLATE=C.UTF-8 LC_ALL= LANGUAGE= \
>   emacs -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ -L ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/ \
>   list.org
>
> (org-sort-list t ?a)
>
> - /a/
> - /v/
> - a
> - v
>
> LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= LANGUAGE= \
>   emacs -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ -L ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/ \
>   list.org
>
> (org-sort-list t ?a)
>
> - /a/
> - a
> - /v/
> - v
>
> Collation rules depend on language. The question is if emphasized
> variant should be sorted first.
>
> P.S. The thread is broken. Some new messages do not have proper
> In-Reply-To header. Original question was not referenced in the
> message with patch as well:
> https://orgmode.org/list/87blbac0k0.fsf@posteo.net/



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-13 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-02 18:15 Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-09 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-10  0:01   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-10 10:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-10 11:41       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-13 17:31         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-13 19:08           ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2021-04-14 15:42             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-14 15:51               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-14 17:07               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-14 21:36                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-15 14:58                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-15 18:21                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-16 14:59                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-16 15:30                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-17 13:27     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-18 17:52       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-18 21:20         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-19  8:33           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-19 12:34             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-19 16:08               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-19 17:00                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-19 17:17                   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-04-19 18:00                     ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-19 17:36                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-19 17:50                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 12:37                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 12:20                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 13:57                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 15:51                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-20 20:37                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 13:10                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-21 15:45                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-24 14:41                             ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 17:06                           ` [Patch] tests for org-remove-invisible Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 18:06                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-27 16:53                               ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-25 12:11                           ` [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-25 16:59                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:43                     ` Bastien
2021-05-15 22:09                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-16  6:04                         ` Bastien
2021-04-28  5:46     ` Bastien
2021-04-28  6:37       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-28  6:49         ` Bastien
2021-04-28  8:04           ` Bastien
2021-05-15 13:32             ` Bastien
2021-05-15 15:10               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:44                 ` Bastien
2021-04-12 13:50 Juan Manuel Macías
     [not found] <mailman.57.1618243212.17744.emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
2021-04-12 18:51 ` Ypo
2021-04-12 23:18   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-04-12 23:52     ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-13 14:16       ` Juan Manuel Macías

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