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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Getting X selection reliably (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:06:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877czyguhp.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tkqits$jjt$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

>> I am unsure what can be done here. AFAIU, Org just follows the %x
>> description. Nothing wrong on Org side.
>> 
>> The best we can do is alternative %?? that will do something more
>> reliable. But I am unsure what it can be.
>
> Depending of particular capture template (even with :immediate-finish t) 
> empty selection may or may not be an error. In Samuel's case it is an 
> error. Unfortunately, while the template is processed, signaled errors 
> are caught and their text is inserted into the text. That is why in my 
> example I put checks outside of `org-capture'.

Are you sure? `org-get-x-clipboard' returns nil in case of error and
`org-capture-fill-template' assigns empty string to v-x when no
clipboard value can be obtained.

> We may:
> - Add a capture template option that allows errors to pass through to 
> the caller. Then a user may add %(...) expression with all necessary checks.

I am not very sure what kind of errors you are talking about. AFAIU, we
are talking about scenarios when user explicitly wants one of
PRIMARY/CLIPBOARD/SECONDARY, don't we?

>>> 2. Jean pointed out that Emacs ignores X selection if it does not have
>>> an X frame. It was almost buried in the haystack of "SQL instead of Org"
>>> noise. It happens if Emacs is running as a daemon. I am unsure which way
>>> Samuel starts Emacs (xinit, systemd user session, systemd socket
>>> activation, manually, etc.)
>> 
>> May we modify org-get-x-clipboard adding
>> (server-select-display (getenv \"DISPLAY\")) ?
>> Will it be enough?
>
> It will work for most of users, however sometimes it is incorrect. There 
> are a number of options that should have higher priority than emacs 
> server DISPLAY environment
> - emacsclient -display command line option,
> - emacsclient process DISPLAY environment,
> - emacs -display server argument.
>
> I have no idea how to get "emacs -display" argument and I need to look 
> into emacsclient source and server.el to figure out which way client's 
> display argument is passed to the server process.

Maybe it can be considered an Emacs bug or something to improve on Emacs
side?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-08  4:22 idea for capture anywhere in x Samuel Wales
2020-09-08  5:01 ` Tim Cross
2020-09-08  5:05   ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-08  5:21     ` Tim Cross
2020-09-08  7:18       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08  8:03         ` Diego Zamboni
2020-09-08 16:08           ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08  5:39     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-08 22:40       ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-09  4:52         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-10 14:23           ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-12  8:48             ` Nick Econopouly
2022-06-10  2:35               ` Samuel Wales
2022-06-10  9:59                 ` Charles Philip Chan
2022-06-11  4:11                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  7:46                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-13  9:10                 ` Michal Politowski
2022-06-13 10:04                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-13 14:02                     ` Michal Politowski
2022-10-12  1:09                       ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-09 14:47                 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-09 16:40                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-09 17:08                     ` Jean Louis
2022-10-10 17:16                       ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-10 22:06                         ` Jean Louis
2022-10-11  9:11                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-12  1:09                             ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-15  3:40                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-26  4:40                                 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26  4:58                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-26  5:05                                     ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26  6:05                                       ` desktop notifications (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x) Max Nikulin
2022-10-26  6:22                                         ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26  7:41                                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-26  8:07                                             ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-26  8:29                                               ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-27  6:33                                     ` Getting X selection reliably " Max Nikulin
2022-10-28  4:59                                       ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-28  5:16                                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-28  8:39                                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-28 16:38                                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-28 23:07                                               ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29  3:21                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29  2:59                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29  3:30                                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29  6:03                                               ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29  7:33                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 22:33                                                 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29  4:50                                             ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-29  4:59                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29  7:44                                                 ` desktop notifications " Max Nikulin
2022-10-29 23:07                                                   ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-30  4:49                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13  4:54                                       ` Getting X selection reliably " Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-13 11:03                                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-14  2:06                                           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-11-16  4:03                                             ` Samuel Wales
2022-11-16 16:46                                               ` Debugging firefox extension " Max Nikulin
2022-11-17  3:16                                                 ` Samuel Wales
2022-11-17  9:42                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-11-17 16:12                                                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-17  7:18                                               ` Getting X selection reliably " Jean Louis
2022-11-17 15:30                                                 ` Reliability of org-protocol browser extensions Max Nikulin
2022-12-04  5:21                                             ` Getting X selection reliably (Re: idea for capture anywhere in x) Max Nikulin
2022-10-12 17:16                           ` idea for capture anywhere in x Max Nikulin
2022-10-12 20:06                             ` Jean Louis
2020-09-09  8:40     ` Russell Adams
2020-09-09 21:11       ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-09  1:07 ` Ihor Radchenko

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