From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id QPk0FMKAjGMiCQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 12:13:06 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id SC06FMKAjGMbcwAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 12:13:06 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F41082B18D for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2022 12:13:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1mvG-0001iR-Fk; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 06:12:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1mvE-0001gK-GH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 06:12:36 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1mvC-0008Nm-UZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 06:12:36 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6E7F240101 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2022 12:12:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1670152353; bh=tAewRYzupXE/tZBnUVB4ssgmR7WWxq28Yql2sGY1yCE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Jzp+qrsWEQybuA3XzN0iRCL9P/+oihMMBnYhAcSwoWhURql9YqoXIUYENh0emVcAy Jcc+G1s6IeZoUFy3YyEupMOr69CNXbPwjcozl9e8RC3OOp11XmsZ935yE3EdXxt07y aYf2APhr67e4xsjRdMzP9dLDDH8101QT3HEARKNHOAa536e6KaQN2BYxZoaMoYwHxR KyGYXcWtPqfYqCnWzsR0naU/qK2AqRWj3wcd5ztinribK0b8I2zyA5OLmdJSshlpIt kYhac5yINZbqrH54lmsNqYNisvnO9RwJgah9im/9Fu1TwCA1QQrHOfglGfnjo6ADJu MczvDkNF/x36w== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NQ3tT167Nz9rxG; Sun, 4 Dec 2022 12:12:32 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Tom Gillespie , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Bastien Subject: Re: org-assert-version considered harmful In-Reply-To: References: <875yhsujkq.fsf@localhost> <87h71ct10n.fsf@localhost> <87tu5bbajh.fsf@localhost> <87r10ey8ov.fsf@localhost> <87o7v4dvon.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmfijrvw.fsf@localhost> <87y1u4ec18.fsf@gnu.org> <871qqnjjdw.fsf@localhost> <87zgd85vc9.fsf@localhost> <87359yl2w5.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2022 11:12:19 +0000 Message-ID: <877cz7jucs.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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