From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtPVF0gQSBuZXcgd2ViIGJyb3dzZXLigL0=?= Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 20:09:04 +0200 Message-ID: <8760vqvem7.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87potzvlp0.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoxJr-000434-EL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 14:09:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoxJo-0007KE-6a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 14:09:15 -0400 Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:58401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aoxJn-0007JF-V4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 14:09:12 -0400 In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Adam Porter Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 2016-04-08, at 22:00, Adam Porter wrote: > Marcin Borkowski mbork.pl> writes: > >> https://vivaldi.com/ >> >> Did anyone hear about it? Any thoughts/experiences? "Taking notes >> while browsing" seems to be something close to org-capture, no? >> Keyboard-driven might mean either vim-like or emacs-like bindings, or >> (hopefully) configurable ones. I, for one, would like to try it out, >> though I do not have too high hopes. > > It looks interesting, but it's not free software, so I have no interest > myself. Firefox/Iceweasel has been serving me well since before it was > Firefox, and Pentadactyl has been my primary UI to it for a long time. I > don't feel like Mozilla is taking it in a good direction anymore, but if it > ever gets too bad, there's Iceweasel, and there's Pale Moon (which has > committed to "classic" Firefox extension APIs and UI), and there are other > alternatives like Conkeror, uzbl, etc. Thanks for the info. While I'm not a fervent supporter of free software like many people here, I rather like the idea, and in fact it didn't occur to me that this browser could be closed-source. (I do understand that "closed-source" is not the opposite of "free as in FSF", but I wouldn't find it surprising if that software were non-free, while it being closed-source - which apparently it is - is astonishing for me.) > Even if you don't care about free software, Vivaldi is made by former Opera > devs, so how do we know they aren't just repeating a cycle? It could go the > same direction Opera went and need to be rebooted again. As long as it's > proprietary, that's a risk its users will always face. I'm not an Opera user, so please enlighten me: what was wrong with it? (The only info about Opera I have is from one of my friends, who liked it a lot a few years ago.) > My two cents. :) Thanks for your input, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University