Re: [OT] A new web browser‽

[Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>]

On 2016-04-08, at 22:00, Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> wrote:

> Marcin Borkowski <mbork <at> mbork.pl> writes:
>
>> https://vivaldi.com/
>> 
>> Did anyone hear about it?  Any thoughts/experiences?  "Taking notes
>> while browsing" seems to be something close to org-capture, no?
>> Keyboard-driven might mean either vim-like or emacs-like bindings, or
>> (hopefully) configurable ones.  I, for one, would like to try it out,
>> though I do not have too high hopes.
>
> It looks interesting, but it's not free software, so I have no interest
> myself.  Firefox/Iceweasel has been serving me well since before it was
> Firefox, and Pentadactyl has been my primary UI to it for a long time.  I
> don't feel like Mozilla is taking it in a good direction anymore, but if it
> ever gets too bad, there's Iceweasel, and there's Pale Moon (which has
> committed to "classic" Firefox extension APIs and UI), and there are other
> alternatives like Conkeror, uzbl, etc.

Thanks for the info.  While I'm not a fervent supporter of free software
like many people here, I rather like the idea, and in fact it didn't
occur to me that this browser could be closed-source.  (I do understand
that "closed-source" is not the opposite of "free as in FSF", but
I wouldn't find it surprising if that software were non-free, while it
being closed-source - which apparently it is - is astonishing for me.)

> Even if you don't care about free software, Vivaldi is made by former Opera
> devs, so how do we know they aren't just repeating a cycle?  It could go the
> same direction Opera went and need to be rebooted again.  As long as it's
> proprietary, that's a risk its users will always face.

I'm not an Opera user, so please enlighten me: what was wrong with it?
(The only info about Opera I have is from one of my friends, who liked
it a lot a few years ago.)

> My two cents.  :)

Thanks for your input,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University