Time stamped TODOs with current-time from everywhere.

Time stamped TODOs with current-time from everywhere.

[Michaël Cadilhac]

Hi there people;

I have a few TODO templates of the form:

          ("td" "Todo deadline (with reminders)" entry
           (file "~/org/todos.org")
           "* TODO %^{Todo}\n DEADLINE: %^t\n %U\n%i%?")

The goal is to have two time stamps: an inactivated one (%U),
recording the time the TODO was created, and a queried time (%^t), for
the deadline.  If I'm just out of the blue thinking of a TODO, I can
easily add it this way.

However, suppose I'm in Calfw; I jump to some date, hit SPACE and I'm
now in Org-Agenda mode, ready to hit k to capture (because Calfw-Org
does not offer this directly).  Now I expect %U to still be the
current time stamp, and %^t to be prefilled with the date of the
Agenda.  It so happens that *both* time stamps are the one of the
Agenda.  Is this tweakable so that %U is always (current-time)?

Thanks!

Cheers;
Michaël

Re: Time stamped TODOs with current-time from everywhere.

[Adam Porter]

Michaël Cadilhac <michael@cadilhac.name> writes:

> However, suppose I'm in Calfw; I jump to some date, hit SPACE and I'm
> now in Org-Agenda mode, ready to hit k to capture (because Calfw-Org
> does not offer this directly).  Now I expect %U to still be the
> current time stamp, and %^t to be prefilled with the date of the
> Agenda.  It so happens that *both* time stamps are the one of the
> Agenda.  Is this tweakable so that %U is always (current-time)?

I'm not sure if that's a bug, since it seems like %^t should always
prompt, or if it's intended that the agenda date fulfill the prompt.
But either way, you should be able to use a %(sexp) form in the capture
template to insert the current date.

Re: Time stamped TODOs with current-time from everywhere.

[Michaël Cadilhac]

On 5 August 2017 at 04:27, Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> wrote:
> Michaël Cadilhac <michael@cadilhac.name> writes:
>
>> However, suppose I'm in Calfw; I jump to some date, hit SPACE and I'm
>> now in Org-Agenda mode, ready to hit k to capture (because Calfw-Org
>> does not offer this directly).  Now I expect %U to still be the
>> current time stamp, and %^t to be prefilled with the date of the
>> Agenda.  It so happens that *both* time stamps are the one of the
>> Agenda.  Is this tweakable so that %U is always (current-time)?
>
> I'm not sure if that's a bug, since it seems like %^t should always
> prompt, or if it's intended that the agenda date fulfill the prompt.
> But either way, you should be able to use a %(sexp) form in the capture
> template to insert the current date.

Thanks for your expertise Adam.  It seems indeed that
org-agenda-capture (or equivalently, setting
org-capture-use-agenda-date) affects the default date at all stages,
i.e., for %u and for the default value of %^t.  This is done through
setting org-overriding-default-time.  I don't think there's any reason
to change this behavior, but it may be worth adding that info in
org-capture-template's docstring.  At the moment, it only says "time
stamp".

Cheers;
M.

Re: Time stamped TODOs with current-time from everywhere.

[Adam Porter]

Michaël Cadilhac <michael@cadilhac.name> writes:

> Thanks for your expertise Adam.  

Glad I could help, but I think you did the sleuthing here.  ;)

> It seems indeed that org-agenda-capture (or equivalently, setting
> org-capture-use-agenda-date) affects the default date at all stages,
> i.e., for %u and for the default value of %^t.  This is done through
> setting org-overriding-default-time.  I don't think there's any reason
> to change this behavior, but it may be worth adding that info in
> org-capture-template's docstring.  At the moment, it only says "time
> stamp".

If you could send a TINYCHANGE patch to the docstring, I'm sure Nicolas
would be grateful!  :)