From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id iDXPIiitj16uTAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:18:00 +0000 Received: from aspmx2.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id yEtWLCmtj16oHAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:18:01 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx2.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24E8768262B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56626 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMgQn-0006sj-6U for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:17:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMgQQ-0006sa-Fk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:17:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jMgQO-0001Cp-Ui for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:17:33 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:55309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jMgQO-0001BF-LJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:17:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA19E240005; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 23:17:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: "Bruce D'Arcus" Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback References: <87o8s389r0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874ktu8gr9.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87a73lxg56.fsf@zeitkraut.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce D'Arcus" , org-mode-email Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 01:17:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Thu, 9 Apr 2020 06:05:30 -0400") Message-ID: <875ze85jw8.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.230 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=default; t=1586474280; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=QHR2+36Mk0YMyoSakw2aaF2vohkk2F6rwwZshLCqUak=; b=hOWFL5Ydv2IrQ7EzcG1UYW1auZBFuhIk3yJXL8HhgnssZuaIOn6PyQe34HXAqM+gSLe18v GNrQddQFz6DOFPl16Wl0go1SkKXq4AuLwqTmXpp+0BlZqzMvjny8WHSOx9H5gYk6V0v+GZ vjfhVbFaI/Ws3xWDC+hHDFCpWnOwz2A= ARC-Seal: i=1; s=default; d=yhetil.org; t=1586474280; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=tcUG7oHc8ME9z55X0syVqkAmveOsgq0Qqokoz5ZaBBqPT1hzzWQ8xuPwdaCT4hguQXrxCr p7bxEqLGCjcDeijNt7HyDuk7lLxKCFoe61oYxO/xKCUcFvcAzy4AXakyX7Z7lHpuViRNfm oesjwPGv5ai1G8uVLZHJPo0WUrJci2Y= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.58020368947616]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.31), country: US(-0.01), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.58)]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nicolasgoaziou.fr]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: NMKGJAkdLzr1 Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Another question on the syntax. > > Does it support something like this in the pandoc syntax? > > Doe [-@doe19] argues ... No it doesn't. That seems reasonable to include. I add it to my TODO list. > The minus sign signals to suppress the author rendering, so that you > end up with: > > Doe (2019) > > ... instead of: > > Doe (Doe, 2019) > > I know latex works differently, but this is simple, and very flexible. Speaking of which, I read about the "citation modes", which may be preferred over "suppress author". What are these citation modes? How do you combine them if "suppress author" is one of the "citation modes". Do citation modes apply on a reference, or a complete citation, which possibly contains multiple references? Also, on a related subject, now I remember [@key] is not a shorthand for [cite:@key]; the former is meant as "author in text" style. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou