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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch suggestion] Mitigating the poor Emacs performance on huge org files: Do not use overlays for PROPERTY and LOGBOOK drawers
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:02:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zdpia5i.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7x9e5jo.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:55:39 +0800")

Hello,

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> To my surprise, the patch did not break org to unusable state and
> the performance on the sample org file [3] improved drastically. You can
> try by yourself!

It is not a surprise, really. Text properties are much faster than
overlays, and very close to them features-wise. They are a bit more
complex to handle, however.

> However, this did introduce some visual glitches with drawer display.
> Though drawers can still be folded/unfolded with <tab>, they are not
> folded on org-mode startup for some reason (can be fixed by running
> (org-cycle-hide-drawers 'all)). Also, some drawers (or parts of drawers)
> are unfolded for no apparent reason sometimes. A blind guess is that it
> is something to do with lack of 'isearch-open-invisible, which I am not
> sure how to set via text properties.

You cannot. You may however mimic it with `cursor-sensor-functions' text
property. These assume Cursor Sensor minor mode is active, tho.
I haven't tested it, but I assume it would slow down text properties
a bit, too, but hopefully not as much as overlays.

Note there are clear advantages using text properties. For example, when
you move contents around, text properties are preserved. So there's no
more need for the `org-cycle-hide-drawer' dance, i.e., it is not
necessary anymore to re-hide drawers.

> Any thoughts about the use of text properties or about the patch
> suggestion are welcome.  

Missing `isearch-open-invisible' is a deal breaker, IMO. It may be worth
experimenting with `cursor-sensor-functions'.

We could also use text properties for property drawers, and overlays for
regular ones. This might give us a reasonable speed-up with an
acceptable feature trade-off.

Anyway, the real fix should come from Emacs itself. There are ways to
make overlays faster. These ways have already been discussed on the
Emacs devel mailing list, but no one implemented them. It is a bit sad
that we have to find workarounds for that.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24  6:55 Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-24  8:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-04-25  0:29   ` stardiviner
2020-04-26 16:04   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-04 16:56     ` Karl Voit
2020-05-07  7:18       ` Karl Voit
2020-05-09 15:43       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-07 11:04     ` Christian Heinrich
2020-05-09 15:46       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-08 16:38     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-09 13:58       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-09 16:22         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-09 17:21           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-10  5:25             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10  9:47               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-10 13:29                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10 14:46                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-10 16:21                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10 16:38                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-10 17:08                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10 19:38                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-09 15:40       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-09 16:30         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-09 17:32           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-09 18:06             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10 14:59               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-10 15:15                 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-05-10 16:30                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-10 19:32                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-12 10:03                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-17 15:00                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-17 15:40                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-18 14:35                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-18 16:52                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-19 13:07                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-23 13:52                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-23 13:53                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-23 15:26                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-26  8:33                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-06-02  9:21                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02  9:23                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02 12:10                                       ` Bastien
2020-06-02 13:12                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02 13:23                                           ` Bastien
2020-06-02 13:30                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02  9:25                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-05  7:26                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-06-05  8:18                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-05 13:50                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-06-08  5:05                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-08  5:06                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-08  5:08                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-10 17:14                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-06-21  9:52                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-21 15:01                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-08-11  6:45                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-11 23:07                                                 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-08-12  6:29                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-20  5:53                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-20 11:45                                                       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-22  9:05                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-22 10:00                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-23  6:16                                                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-23  6:48                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-23  7:09                                                                 ` Bastien
2020-09-23  7:30                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-24 18:07                                                                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-25  2:16                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-15 17:38                                                                     ` [9.4] Fixing logbook visibility during isearch Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-16  3:15                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-16 18:05                                                                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-17  3:18                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-17 14:50                                                                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-18  2:23                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-24 23:37                                                                                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-25  2:51                                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-25 10:59                                                                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-25 12:32                                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-25 21:35                                                                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-26  4:14                                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-26 11:44                                                                                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-12-26 12:22                                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-04  5:58                                                       ` [patch suggestion] Mitigating the poor Emacs performance on huge org files: Do not use overlays for PROPERTY and LOGBOOK drawers Ihor Radchenko
2021-03-21  9:09                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-03 17:28                                                           ` Bastien
2021-09-21 13:32                                                             ` Timothy
2021-10-26 17:25                                                               ` Matt Price
2021-10-27  6:27                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                             ` [PATCH 00/35] Merge org-fold feature branch Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 01/35] Add org-fold-core: new folding engine Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 02/35] Separate folding functions from org.el into new library: org-fold Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 03/35] Separate cycling functions from org.el into new library: org-cycle Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 04/35] Remove functions from org.el that are now moved elsewhere Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 05/35] Disable native-comp in agenda Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 06/35] org-macs: New function org-find-text-property-region Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:37                                                               ` [PATCH 07/35] org-at-heading-p: Accept optional argument Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 08/35] org-string-width: Reimplement to work with new folding Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 09/35] Rename old function call to use org-fold Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 10/35] Implement link folding Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-04  6:13                                                                 ` [BUG] 67275f4 broke evil-search " Tom Gillespie
2022-05-04  6:38                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 11/35] Implement overlay- and text-property-based versions of some functions Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 12/35] org-fold: Handle indirect buffer visibility Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 13/35] Fix subtle differences between overlays and invisible text properties Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 14/35] Support extra org-fold optimisations for huge buffers Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 15/35] Alias new org-fold functions to their old shorter names Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 16/35] Obsolete old function names that are now in org-fold Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 17/35] org-compat: Work around some third-party packages using outline-* functions Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 18/35] Move `org-buffer-list' to org-macs.el Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 19/35] Restore old visibility behaviour of org-refile Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 20/35] Add org-fold-related tests Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 21/35] org-manual: Update to new org-fold function names Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 22/35] ORG-NEWS: Add list of changes Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 20:31                                                                 ` New folding backend & outline (was: [PATCH 22/35] ORG-NEWS: Add list of changes) Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-30  2:15                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 23/35] Backport contributed commits Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 24/35] Fix typo: delete-duplicates → delete-dups Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 25/35] Fix bug in org-get-heading Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 26/35] Rename remaining org-force-cycle-archived → org-cycle-force-archived Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 27/35] Fix org-fold--hide-drawers--overlays Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 28/35] org-string-width: Handle undefined behaviour in older Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 29/35] org-string-width: Work around `window-pixel-width' bug in old Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 30/35] org-fold-show-set-visibility: Fix edge case when folded region is at BOB Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 31/35] org-fold-core: Fix fontification inside folded regions Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 32/35] test-org/string-width: Add tests for strings with prefix properties Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 33/35] org--string-from-props: Fix handling folds in Emacs <28 Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 34/35] org-link-make-string: Throw error when both LINK and DESCRIPTION are empty Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 11:38                                                               ` [PATCH 35/35] test-ol/org-toggle-link-display: Fix compatibility with old Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-03  6:27                                                               ` [PATCH 00/35] Merge org-fold feature branch Bastien
2022-02-03  7:07                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:23                                                                   ` [PATCH v2 00/38] Final call for comments: " Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:23                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 01/38] Add org-fold-core: new folding engine--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 02/38] Separate folding functions from org.el into new library: org-fold Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 03/38] Separate cycling functions from org.el into new library: org-cycle Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 04/38] Remove functions from org.el that are now moved elsewhere Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 05/38] Disable native-comp in agendaIt caused cryptic bugs in the past Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 06/38] org-macs: New function org-find-text-property-region--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:24                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 07/38] org-at-heading-p: Accept optional argument* lisp/org.el (org-at-heading-p): Use second argument to allow Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 08/38] org-string-width: Reimplement to work with new folding Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 09/38] Rename old function call to use org-fold--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 10/38] Implement link folding* lisp/ol.el (org-link--link-folding-spec): Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 11/38] Implement overlay- and text-property-based versions of some functions Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 12/38] org-fold: Handle indirect buffer visibility--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 13/38] Fix subtle differences between overlays and invisible text properties Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 14/38] Support extra org-fold optimisations for huge buffers Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 15/38] Alias new org-fold functions to their old shorter names Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:25                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 16/38] Obsolete old function names that are now in org-fold--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 17/38] org-compat: Work around some third-party packages using outline-* functions Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 18/38] Move `org-buffer-list' to org-macs.el--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 19/38] Restore old visibility behaviour of org-refile--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 20/38] Add org-fold-related tests--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 21/38] org-manual: Update to new org-fold function names--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 22/38] ORG-NEWS: Add list of changes--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 23/38] Backport contributed commits--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 24/38] Fix typo: delete-duplicates → delete-dups Anders Johansson
2022-04-20 13:26                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 25/38] Fix bug in org-get-headingFixes #26, where fontification could make the matching and extraction of heading Anders Johansson
2022-04-20 13:27                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 26/38] Rename remaining org-force-cycle-archived Anders Johansson
2022-04-20 13:27                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 27/38] Fix org-fold--hide-drawers--overlays--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:27                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 28/38] org-string-width: Handle undefined behaviour in older Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:27                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 29/38] org-string-width: Work around `window-pixel-width' bug in old Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:27                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 30/38] org-fold-show-set-visibility: Fix edge case when folded region is at BOB Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 31/38] org-fold-core: Fix fontification inside folded regions Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 32/38] test-org/string-width: Add tests for strings with prefix properties Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 33/38] org--string-from-props: Fix handling folds in Emacs <28 Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 34/38] org-link-make-string: Throw error when both LINK and DESCRIPTION are empty Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 35/38] test-ol/org-toggle-link-display: Fix compatibility with old Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 36/38] org-macs.el: Fix fontification checks take 2--- Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 37/38] org-fold-core-fontify-region: Fix cases when fontification is not registered Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 13:28                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 38/38] org-agenda.el: Re-enable native compilation* lisp/org-agenda.el: Re-enable native compilation as it does not Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 14:47                                                                     ` [PATCH v2 00/38] Final call for comments: Merge org-fold feature branch Bastien
2022-04-20 15:38                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-20 16:22                                                                         ` Bastien
2022-04-21  6:01                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-21  6:55                                                                             ` Bastien
2022-04-21  9:27                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-21  9:43                                                                                 ` Bastien
2022-04-22 18:54                                                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-04-25 11:44                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-25 13:02                                                                         ` Bastien
2022-04-25 13:25                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-25 14:05                                                                             ` Bastien
2022-04-26 11:48                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-25 11:45                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-26  6:10                                                                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-05-03  4:44                                                                     ` [ISSUE] org-fold does not support auto-reveal for some external package commands Christopher M. Miles
     [not found]                                                                     ` <6270b43a.1c69fb81.835d4.54a6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2022-05-03  6:33                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-03 10:19                                                                         ` [DONE] " Christopher M. Miles

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