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From: TEC <tecosaur@gmail.com>
To: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Website revamp?
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 23:53:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z9y4cma.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rgc00h$ed1$1@ciao.gmane.io>


Thanks for the feedback!
 
Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes: 
 
> 03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote: 
>> 
>> To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see 
>> https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png 
> 
> Sorry for negative (and maybe discouraging) feedback. I would 
> not mind if you just skip my complains since I am not a 
> contributor to org-mode. 

Please, share your thoughts!
 
> Concerning the screenshot, when first impression, that 
> everything is broken and do not worth reading at all, is over, 
> in my opinion, the text makes much more sense than "innovative" 
> marketing stuff got priority on the demo of the new design. I 
> consider the list of tasks, that org mode could help with, is 
> the most important thing to attract new users. It should just be 
> properly formatted. 

Re content for the index page, my current thoughts are:
 - Some sort of informative introductory paragraph
 - List of most common applications of org - Note latest version, 
 and when it was released

I also have a styled equivalent of the screenshot on the current 
site.

These things just need to move from my mind, to the page :)

Do let me know if you have any other specific ideas on content for 
the index.
 
> It seems that new variant is too mobile-centric. On a 24in 
> monitor I expect something more than just a banner. There is 
> plenty of room for brief news related to new releases, for more 
> details of most important features (on the other hand I am 
> against arbitrary scaled screenshots with excessively huge 
> characters in comparison to surrounded text), etc. I am aware 
> that my taste is against of modern design trends. 

If you have specific suggestions on how I could smoothly work in a 
better design for the index on the desktop, I'd love to hear them. 
If you could pair any such suggestions with reference to my 
earlier thoughts* on the purpose of each page that will make it 
easier to glimpse your thought process, and how it compares to my 
own.

\* see email in reply to Colin sent on Mon 03 Aug 07:53 UTC
 
> A couple of remarks unrelated to new look but should be 
> addressed in the case of rework. 
> 
> I am surprised that Emacs is explicitly mentioned only in html 
> head title. The relation should be clear for new visitors. 

That's:
 a) been removed from the head title. I couldn't find a browser 
 which would 
    display the whole thing without chopping it off the last 
    ~third 
 b) going to be mentioned prominently in the body, at least in my 
 current thoughts
 
> As to installation, I believe that org-mode bundled with Emacs 
> is more than enough for first try. It is a shorter path to 
> become familiar with most prominent features just to start 
> editing of an .org file (or to download a prepared demo .org). 
> Getting the latest stable version could be a next step for the 
> hooked users.

Are you saying that you find the current mention of Emacs in the 
instillation page works well? I'm currently just linking to Emacs. 
Looking at the page though, I think I should make a more prominent 
action to download Emacs.

I love the idea of a demo org file! If anyone would like to help 
out with creating one by sending in contenders / snippets that 
would be brilliant!

Even better - having two or three different demo files based on the use case of
the new user - e.g. programmer, author, organisation - or something like that.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-04 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-14 13:55 Website revamp? TEC
2020-07-30 13:00 ` TEC
2020-07-30 13:20   ` Russell Adams
2020-07-30 13:36   ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-30 14:19     ` TEC
2020-07-30 14:47       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-07-30 15:53       ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-30 17:22       ` Russell Adams
2020-07-30 17:57         ` TEC
2020-07-30 19:03           ` Russell Adams
2020-08-01  8:15             ` TEC
2020-08-02 18:08               ` TEC
2020-08-03  5:10                 ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-03  5:11                   ` TEC
2020-08-03  7:01                     ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-03  7:53                       ` TEC
2020-08-03  8:03                     ` tomas
2020-08-04  5:54                       ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-05 10:17                         ` Bo Grimes
2020-08-05 10:26                           ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-05 10:40                             ` Bo Grimes
2020-08-05 10:43                               ` TEC
2020-08-03 10:54                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-08-04 15:48                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-04 15:53                       ` TEC [this message]
2020-08-04 16:18                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-08-04 16:23                           ` TEC
2020-08-04 16:30                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-08-05 11:56                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-05 12:03                           ` TEC
2020-08-06 11:25                             ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-06 11:52                               ` TEC
2020-08-24  7:43                                 ` TEC
2020-08-25 10:28                                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-25 12:02                                     ` TEC
2020-08-25 15:09                                       ` TEC
2020-08-27 16:09                                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-09-01 16:39                                     ` TEC
2020-09-30 16:24                                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-11 15:24                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-04 15:53                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-08-04 16:09                         ` TEC
2020-08-04 21:43                       ` Bo Grimes
2020-08-05 15:24                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-05 16:00                           ` TEC
2020-08-07  5:19                     ` David Rogers
2020-08-04  5:59               ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-04  6:27                 ` TEC
2020-08-04 20:44                   ` gyro funch
2020-08-24 15:39                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-07-30 19:40           ` Scott Randby
2020-09-01 16:44 ` TEC
2020-09-01 18:07   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-01 18:11     ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-02  3:48       ` TEC
2020-09-02  2:59     ` TEC
2020-09-04  9:37   ` Bastien
2020-09-05  9:08     ` Martin Schöön
2020-09-05 10:16   ` Colin Baxter
2020-09-07 17:24     ` TEC
2020-09-07 18:13   ` TEC
2020-09-08  5:41     ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-08  5:49       ` TEC

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