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Eric, sorry for that. But this is an interesting topic so just to have some more thoughts on this I'm jumping in. Org-mode has enhanced my organizational skills and I have still a lot to learn here. To continue this conversation, we need a philosopher here one I'm far from being one, so please take my comments lightly. On Saturday, 19 Jun 2021 at 09:26, Tim Cross wrote: > A major pitfall with todo lists and priorities is that we fail to make > the distinction between important and urgent tasks. What ends up > happening is that all our time gets consumed by urgent tasks and we > never get time to address important tasks. Unfortunately, it is the > important tasks which, once completed, will reduce the number or time > taken to deal with urgent tasks - we end up being more reactive and > proactive. First how do we make the distinction between urgent and important tasks? Many tasks are important because they are urgent but who and what defines their urgency? > > In our case, we all hated having to update/edit the course guides in MS > Office because it was painful and time consuming, but urgent. However, > nobody belt they had the time to fix matters, despite us all agreeing it > was important. This reminds me of the Aesop fable the [1] Mice in Council, which pushes the importance part to the extreme. [1]: https://aesopsfables.org/F184_The-Mice-in-Council.html. A way to solve this might be identify some heroes and compensate them for doing their job. Too many heroes never have their inner calling. > > What would have been really great is if we had more Emacs users. We You are in good company here. > could then just have used org mode for the base format and even less > work would have been required to convert from MS Office, but that will > never happen. On the up side, I do see more and more ideas originally > germinated in an Emacs environment finding there way into other tool > chains, so perhaps the environments of the future won't suck quite as > much as they might if MS Office had been the only source for > inspiration! As the Beta v VHS war demonstrated, great technology is not > enough, you also need to factor in marketing and advertising budgets of > the competition! [2] Monday.com raised $574 Million, in an IPO this month. Many times I'm forced to use pictures as replacement for table and I am still struggling to add more DONE states there. [2]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-10/monday-com-prices-u-s-ipo-above-range-at-155-a-share I suspect that it would be difficult to compete with a front-end with org-mode at the back, but again, I'm telling more than I know. Best regards, -- Jeremie Juste