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Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:04:58 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Cc: Ihor Radchenko , Org Mode List Subject: Re: New try at multi-lingual export to latex/pdf using pdflatex and babel In-Reply-To: (Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez's message of "Sun, 11 Feb 2024 07:22:35 +0100") References: <87sf2qg7pg.fsf@localhost> <87ttmh8c9f.fsf@localhost> <87ttmgpema.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:04:56 +0000 Message-ID: <875xyv1ctj.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.40 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -7.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5A68116CBE X-TUID: IqB9gRGqRbGi Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > I agree it does not take advantage of the AUTO facility here, but I > nevertheless think it would > be interesting to show people how to do this. Until we expand the AUTO > facility to cope with > all quirks of multi-language in pdflatex (lualatex and xetex are a > different pair of shoes), a quick > and dirty alternative may be helpful for people. The introductory text > could be Pedro, the only problem I see with that is that it is an example of LaTeX rather than Org. The only Org part here is #+LaTeX_header, and in the entire section it's already made clear enough what it's used for. Perhaps a brief reminder (the AUTO facility of the previous examples is very limited) could be added first, and that if the users want to obtain more complex, or more specific results (like the case you exemplify for pdfLaTeX) they must put explicit LaTeX code, using LaTeX_header. And then your example would come, but emphasizing that the LaTeX documentation must be consulted. wdyt? My point is that if we abuse examples of this type (at the expense of "#+latex_header:something"), or "how is this done in LaTeX?", in the end a LaTeX manual is made instead of Org. I'm glad you enjoyed the jump to LuaTeX. :-) Best regards, Juan Manuel=20 --=20 Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas -- Composici=C3=B3n tipogr=C3=A1fica, tratamiento d= e datos, dise=C3=B1o editorial y ortotipograf=C3=ADa