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From: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ANN] Org-babel integrated into Org-mode
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:23:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874oglofzs.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87wrtp78rg.fsf@gmail.com

Hi Eric,

Thanks again for all the work that you, Dan, and Tom have put into
org-babel. I'm glad to see it become part of org-mode!

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

> 2) Babel will now be loaded by default along with the rest of Org-mode.
>    This means that *everyone* currently using babel will need to change
>    their Emacs config and remove the (require 'org-babel-int) and/or
>    (require 'org-babel) lines.

I would like to request that org-babel be made an optional module. I ask
this as someone who uses org-babel regularly. Here are my reasons:

  - Org-babel adds rather specific and complex functionality to org-mode
    that those who use it as a simple outliner and todo manager do not
    require. (In other words, an option to turn it off might be nice for
    those who are worried about "feature creep.")

  - Org-babel increases the risk of accidentally executing malicious or
    dangerous code when typing C-c C-c on a src block or exporting a
    file. Perhaps users should activate it only after they understand
    the risks.

    + For instance, I might write a blog post warning about the dangers
      of typing "rm -rf ~/". If I put this between #+begin_src sh
      and #+end_src and unthinkingly hit C-c C-c, I would be in trouble.
      I believe this is the reason for the variables
      org-confirm-shell-link-function and
      org-confirm-elisp-link-function.

    + This is admitted a bit far-fetched as an example, as it would
      require one to have loaded ob-sh.el. But since elisp execution is
      activated by default, there remain opportunities for unwittingly
      executing code that is meant for other purposes (e.g., warnings,
      examples, etc.).

>    Support for evaluating emacs-lisp code blocks is loaded by default.
>    All other languages will need to be required explicitly.  To conform
>    to Emacs filename specifications all language require lines have been
>    shortened from e.g.
>    
>    (require 'org-babel-sh)
>    
>    to
>    
>    (require 'ob-sh)

When I run make clean && make && make install I find that the language
directory is not installed. Does the langs directory require a manual
installation?

Also, with make install, the ob-* files are installed on the same level
as the org-files, yet lines 108-114 in org.el indicate that they should
be installed in a babel subdirectory.

Thanks!
Matt

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-29 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-23 21:09 [ANN] Org-babel integrated into Org-mode Eric Schulte
2010-06-23 23:23 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-06-23 23:41   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  0:03 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-24  0:39   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  5:12     ` Nathan Neff
2010-06-24  5:42       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-24  7:31 ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-06-24 16:27   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-25  8:28     ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-25 15:37       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26  8:45         ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-26 15:59           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26 16:30             ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-26 17:27               ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-26 18:45                 ` Stephan Schmitt
2010-06-26 19:42               ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-26 19:51                 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-28  7:55         ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 11:53           ` Štěpán Němec
2010-06-28 12:16             ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 12:54               ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-28 13:18                 ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 13:25                   ` Bernt Hansen
2010-06-28 13:36                     ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 16:03           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29  7:11             ` Rainer M Krug
2010-06-28 11:32 ` Christopher Witte
2010-06-28 16:59   ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-02 15:50     ` Christopher Witte
2010-06-29 18:23 ` Matt Lundin [this message]
2010-06-29 19:08   ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-29 21:01     ` Matt Lundin
2010-06-29 21:27       ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-29 22:12       ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-29 22:03   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29 23:09     ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-29 23:11       ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30  2:21         ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-30  5:37           ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30  5:40             ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 12:13     ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-30  9:27   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30  9:59     ` Scot Becker
2010-06-30 12:53     ` Matthew Lundin
2010-06-30 13:24       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30 16:25     ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 17:01       ` Dan Davison
2010-06-30 17:17         ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 23:08           ` Stephan Schmitt
2010-07-01  0:20         ` Matthew Lundin
2010-07-01  6:27         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-01 16:11           ` Nick Dokos
2010-07-01 20:24             ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-07-01 22:14               ` Nick Dokos
2010-06-30 19:41       ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01  7:20       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-01 14:55         ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01 20:39           ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-01 22:13             ` Christian Moe
2010-07-02  4:22             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-07-02 18:52               ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-02  8:38           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-06-30 19:01   ` Eric Schulte
2010-06-30 20:47     ` Matthew Lundin

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