Re: Org-mode outside Org-mode

[Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com>]

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> Great write-up, Thorsten.

thanks

> There is a whole other set of options also.  I don't know if they are
> close enough for you to include, but it's worth pointing them out.
>
> These are in the general category of Org annotations.  Instead of
> editing Org in a temporary buffer, you use a real, permanent Org file
> (can include an agenda file).
>
> There are two types of options: those that allow you to use Org to
> annotate external files without changing those files, and those that
> allow you to annotate external files by putting persistent markers in
> them.
>
> In both types, you can in principle do C-c ' to get to your Org agenda
> files location from your external files, and the same thing in
> reverse.
>
> The existing mechanisms include org-pua.el, org-registry.el, and
> org-annotate.el.
>
> In principle, you should be able to annotate web pages in w3m.el and
> dired entries and info notes also.
>
> To me, there is a lot of possibility here.

> It should also be possible to put an ID marker in an external file,
> which corresponds exactly to the Org IDs in a canonical entry in your
> agenda files.  Then C-c ' can bounce between the external file and
> your agenda file.

please see my recent post about 'navi-mode' for Org-mode buffers.
'navi-mode' actually is a kind of permanent associated buffer tightly
coupled to the original Org-mode or source code buffer. It uses markers
to allow bouncing between the associated 'twin-buffers', but non of the
libraries you mention. However, I worked out my own system to ensure
that the *Navi* buffer is always up-to-date after modifying the
original-buffer, and to locate point at a logical position in the
navi-buffer even when the view (on the original-buffer has changed
drastically).

The temporary editing of source-code in Org-mode buffers is inspired by
org-src.el (or Org Babel), its very fast and convenient, just like
editing source-code blocks in Org-mode. 

Just try it out, maybe it is similar to what you imagine (only with
different implementation). 

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten